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What Would Jack Want for Ennis?

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Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on June 07, 2007, 12:36:57 pm ---I think you're right that he'd be very happy to hear the "I swear." Though also wistful that he never got to hear it earlier.

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You killt me dead here. I'm crying again. God, I remember more than a year ago someone asked on imdb when the tears will stop. A year has gone by since then, a whole year. But still..... :'(


Yes, I also think Jack would have been very happy about Ennis's evolvement. Seeing Ennis with his parents would have meant a world to him.
I think Jack would want that Ennis continues to grow and to feel more comfortable with himself and his life and that he finds someone else. That's what you wish for when you love someone. And I think there's hope that the first part comes true, at least to a certain degree. But I don't think Ennis will ever find someone else for two, no three reasons: first, I think he won't get comfortable enough to be free for another relationship. Second I think Ennis is a one man man. He loves Jack period.  And third, I think he won't live long enough to reach an age in which you kinda stand above ordidinary affairs, above rules that society puts on you (and there are many people who live really long without ever gaining this freedom and relaxed manner). I'm still with Jeff (Wrangler) on this: I think hard outdoor work, poor diet and health care, plus cigarettes and booze will put an early end to Ennis   :(.

But no, I don't see Ennis's future all in black. I hope that he will have grandchildren pretty soon and will be a loving and doting grandpa and hopefully will be really close to his daughters and grandchildren and find love and contentment in that.

Brown Eyes:
Thanks for all your input Buds!

I think this is a difficult issue, especially trying to consider it from Jack's perspective. 

It seems almost unquestionably clear that Ennis is unlikely to find a great, true love like Jack again.  But, has Ennis accepted himself enough by the end of the movie to consider that it might be worthwhile for him to go out and find another man as a companion?  Is there any possible double-significance to Ennis's statement to Junior that they can "find themselves a new cowboy"?  Is Ennis capable, by the end of the movie/story to find another cowboy for himself?  Is Ennis self-aware enough to even contemplate this?

My opinion is that Jack loved Ennis enough to want him to not be alone for the remainder of his days, while at the same time acknowledging that Jack was the main and most significant relationship to grace Ennis's life.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: atz75 on June 08, 2007, 12:23:52 am --- has Ennis accepted himself enough by the end of the movie to consider that it might be worthwhile for him to go out and find another man as a companion?
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I was about to say, "No way." I can maybe, maybe picture Ennis falling in love again but only by circumstance and serendipity, as he did with Jack, never by deliberately seeking it out. But then when you said ...


--- Quote ---Is there any possible double-significance to Ennis's statement to Junior that they can "find themselves a new cowboy"?
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... I thought, well, that COULD be a clue ...  ???

Brown Eyes:
The more I think about this question... the question about Ennis's future following the end of the story/movie the more impassioned I get lately (this is probably just the current bee in my bonnet... although, it's also a question capable of bringing me almost to tears in serious moments).

Proulx gave her reads the instructive to "finish the story in our own lives" and its an important imperative here at BetterMost as a goal for all of us.  For Ennis too, this remains an open question.  He concludes the story/film with a half-completed sentence... "Jack, I swear..."  Of course, everyone loves to try to figure that one out.  And, it seems to conclude things in a positive light (very ambiguous... but it suggests positive things... I think to most of us at least).  The story also ends at almost the exact definition of "mid-life" for Ennis- age 40.  If he lives out a full life-span he would have almost exactly half his life left to lead.  Is it acceptable that he would spend up to 40 years (maximum) confined, alone to a small trailer?

What next for Ennis?  What is the best we can hope for from Ennis (i.e. what would Jack want for Ennis?)?

loneleeb3:
Well now Amanda, when you put it like that, I guess we need to think what would we want for ourselves.
For me being Ennis to the core I have made that decision.
I am coming out of the little tin trailer, closet, prison etc and accepting myself for who and what i am for the first time in my 40yrs.
Again, I would say I think Jack would just want Ennis to be happy and comfortable in his own skin for a change and to be at peace with himself and his life.
I think thats the best any of us can hope for.

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