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David:

--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on June 13, 2006, 01:53:36 am ---I like to think that as time went by Ennis returned to Lightning Flat as Jack did at least yearly after his trips with Ennis to help on the old ranch. In Jacks place he may have come to live there after his father passed to help Mrs. Twist as his way of honering Jack and the kindness his mother gave him. Of course he would have Jacks childhood room, the shirts returning to the closet where Jack safley protected them for so many years. This is where Ennis would have felt closest to Jack, where he grew up.

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OMG!   That is exactly how I want to see the future for Ennis! 

Ennis has no family other that his daughters.   We know Ennis likes to work on a ranch, so why not up in Lightning Flat?    I can easily see him getting a postcard from Jacks Mom saying that the old stud duck has died and that Ennis is welcome to come back for Jacks ashes.    Ennis would go up there and end up helping our on the ranch.    With nothing back in Riverton for him except that lonely old trailer, he accepts an invitation to stay and live there while he helps run the ranch.    Maybe Bobby Twist gets thrown out of the Newsomes life when he comes out of the closet.  He ends up driving up to Lightning flat to meet his Grandma.      He meets Ennis who becomes a step Father to him.     

Jane:

--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on June 13, 2006, 07:45:36 am ---
OMG!   That is exactly how I want to see the future for Ennis! 

Ennis has no family other that his daughters.   We know Ennis likes to work on a ranch, so why not up in Lightning Flat?    I can easily see him getting a postcard from Jacks Mom saying that the old stud duck has died and that Ennis is welcome to come back for Jacks ashes.    Ennis would go up there and end up helping our on the ranch.    With nothing back in Riverton for him except that lonely old trailer, he accepts an invitation to stay and live there while he helps run the ranch.    Maybe Bobby Twist gets thrown out of the Newsomes life when he comes out of the closet.  He ends up driving up to Lightning flat to meet his Grandma.      He meets Ennis who becomes a step Father to him.     

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Yep, then Ennis can take Jacks ashes and scatter them on Brokeback Mountain like he wante,d then we can all sit and bawl our eyes out again.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 13, 2006, 01:24:15 am ---Me too, Penth. One thing I have noticed is animal skulls on the wall when Jack and Ennis are together -- there's one in the bar where they're having beers and (maybe?) one somewhere else. So I always think, maybe that skull means something; I'd better watch and see if I spot any other skulls. I never do, but I'm not sure if that's because they don't exist or because I get too caught up in the story and forget to look. Anybody else see any?

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Hey there Katherine.  Yes, there's definitely that large bull's skull on the bar wall behind Ennis's head (with the lasso around it) in that early bar scene.  Ennis gets the big skull/ lasso and Jack gets sunshine (and other details that are hard to pick out) as background details behind there respective heads.  And, the one other animal head I can think of is in Aguirre's trailer right at the beginning.  There's a sad little jackrabbit's (?) head on the wall.  It's not a skull... it's essentially a taxidermied head (it still has white fur).  I'm really not sure what kind of animal it is.


And, about this subject of the shirts... Yeah, I think it's a really good idea to point out that Mrs. Twist probably would realize that Ennis's shirt was not at all the style of shirt that Jack would have worn, so that she would be clued into its significance (by that and by her understanding of Jack broadly).  It's curious to note that Jack wears a patterned shirt to the reunion camping trip, because this is also the first time that we see him wearing that darned light-colored hat (always a bit of a puzzle to me... despite the numerous discussions here and there about the subject).  So, in the reunion Jack is taking a step towards dressing like Ennis.  I wonder though, did Jack wear a patterned shirt as one of his layers the summer that he returns to Aguirre's trailer (the look what the wind blew in scene)?  Still, I do think it may be significant that Jack is skewing towards dressing a bit like Ennis... Because, I've always wondered about Ennis's comment to Alma as he's rushing out the door to get to the motel following the reunion kiss.  He says his smokes are in "the top pocket of my blue shirt".  We've never seen Ennis wearing a solid blue shirt (a la Jack)... we have seen him wear the shirt with the blue intersecting lines with a white background (the "you bet" post office scene).  But, here at least Ennis is mentioning very Jack-like clothing.  Maybe a sign that this is a moment when they're truly interconnected.
 

jpwagoneer1964:

--- Quote from: atz75 on June 14, 2006, 12:36:45 am ---Hey there Katherine.  Yes, there's definitely that large bull's skull on the bar wall behind Ennis's head (with the lasso around it) in that early bar scene.  Ennis gets the big skull/ lasso and Jack gets sunshine (and other details that are hard to pick out) as background details behind there respective heads.  And, the one other animal head I can think of is in Aguirre's trailer right at the beginning.  There's a sad little jackrabbit's (?) head on the wall.  It's not a skull... it's essentially a taxidermied head (it still has white fur).  I'm really not sure what kind of animal it is.


And, about this subject of the shirts... Yeah, I think it's a really good idea to point out that Mrs. Twist probably would realize that Ennis's shirt was not at all the style of shirt that Jack would have worn, so that she would be clued into its significance (by that and by her understanding of Jack broadly).  It's curious to note that Jack wears a patterned shirt to the reunion camping trip, because this is also the first time that we see him wearing that darned light-colored hat (always a bit of a puzzle to me... despite the numerous discussions here and there about the subject).  So, in the reunion Jack is taking a step towards dressing like Ennis.  I wonder though, did Jack wear a patterned shirt as one of his layers the summer that he returns to Aguirre's trailer (the look what the wind blew in scene)?  Still, I do think it may be significant that Jack is skewing towards dressing a bit like Ennis... Because, I've always wondered about Ennis's comment to Alma as he's rushing out the door to get to the motel following the reunion kiss.  He says his smokes are in "the top pocket of my blue shirt".  We've never seen Ennis wearing a solid blue shirt (a la Jack)... we have seen him wear the shirt with the blue intersecting lines with a white background (the "you bet" post office scene).  But, here at least Ennis is mentioning very Jack-like clothing.  Maybe a sign that this is a moment when they're truly interconnected.
 

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You are right Jack DID also wear a large pattern plaid under his outer shirt the next summer at the Agguire trailer.

nic:
This talk of shirts.. just a thought, it's fairly way out but if I can't say it here where can I say it ? (The loony house   :laugh:) Maybe when they were apart they got to dressing a bit like the other in a way to make up for the absence, possibly even subconsciously, trying to make a connection somehow.  I know if I were apart from someone I felt strongly for, they would more or less be on my mind most of the time whether I liked it or not (like BBM is now!) and in everyday moments I'd think of that person.  "oh, XXXX would love that" , "this is XXXX's favourite food", etc. Somehow the same kind of thing might have extended to clothing.    ???

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