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Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: atz75 on June 25, 2006, 05:07:39 pm ---So, I have another random question that will reveal my ignorance regarding sheep herding culture.  Why and how were there Chilean sheep in Wyoming?  Chili is a long, long way away from Wyoming.  I mean, I love that detail in the story/ film but I've never quite understood it.

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I always assumed that the sheep itself were not Chilean. They were only so-called, because they were tended (not owned) by Chilean herders.

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: Penthesilea on June 28, 2006, 02:30:08 am ---I always assumed that the sheep itself were not Chilean. They were only so-called, because they were tended (not owned) by Chilean herders.

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Oh, sure!  That definitely makes sense.  I, for some reason, had been thinking it was a breed of sheep or something.  I know next to nothing about sheep and sheep herding.

Katie77:
Theres a scene that always makes me have a bit of a giggle....

When Ennis gets thrown from the horse when the bear scares him and is late getting back to the camp, and jack says.."Where the hell you been, I been out watching the sheep all day, and come back down, and theres no dinner for me"...(or something similar to those words)......It reminds me of a husband coming home from work, and saying to the wife "what the hell you been doin all day, and you havent even made me dinner"

Dont know if that dialgogue, was meant to look like a "husband and wife" scenario, but it did to me......

Brown Eyes:
Hi Katie!
Welcome to BetterMost. Have a cup of coffee and a piece of cherry cake.
 :)

Oh sure, I completely agree with you about Jack's tone of voice after the bear incident.  It does sound like the voice of a nagging (but loving and concerned) significant other. I think a lot about the Brokeback summer is about showing how they developed their own version of a domestic partnership.  Completely on their own terms, and it evolved to suit both of them beautifully (until they were broken apart too soon by Aguirre cutting the summer short).  I think this is why Jack's proposal later about ranching up together and the cow and calf operation makes so much sense.  The both know they were happiest (ever) when they were living together... and that was in '63.  I think Ennis even recognizes this (even as he's rejecting Jack's idea), but he's too afraid to give it a shot.

David:


--- Quote --- The both know they were happiest (ever) when they were living together... and that was in '63.  I think Ennis even recognizes this (even as he's rejecting Jack's idea), but he's too afraid to give it a shot.
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Oh Ennis definately knows this.   In the book he tells Jack "It took me a year to figure out I shouldn't have let you out of my sights".    (They should have put that line in the movie)  So when Jack suggests they get a little cow and calf operation, Ennis knows that Jack was the best thing for him and their days on Brokeback were paradise. 

But even if Jack lived in Riverton instead of Texas, what would that have changed?    Would Ennis have not Married Alma?   No, he did that right away after leaving the Mountain.    So a year after marrying her, he'd be sneeking across town to see Jack.  But he'd still not want to get divorced and live with Jack.     Maybe he'd see more of Jack and his marriage would disintigrate faster.   Either way, there isn't a happy ending for the boys any time soon in that scenario either.

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