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elomelo:
Apologies if this has been mentioned but the dissapearing log? Maybe Jack knocked it off accidentally when he looked towards Ennis when Agguired peered through his binoculars.

Another thing: when Ennis tells Jack for the first time about marrying Alma when he comes off the mountain, Jack ignores the comment like nothing happened.

brokeplex:
the block of wood doesn't really disappear, it is just back in the same location where Jack has picked it up before Aguirre rode up. In other words, the scene was filmed in several takes, and the continuity people didn't notice that there was a discrepancy in between the takes.

brokeplex:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,8644.120.html

here are some other "mistakes" that we discussed on another thread.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: brokeplex on March 16, 2008, 07:52:45 pm ---Good point about the "twining" and "paralleling" comments made by Jack! This compliments my obsession to see the film as a palindrome.
--- End quote ---

Broke, a lot of us share that obsession. I know of one person who thinks it's a mirror, literally scene for scene. Personally, I don't think it's quite that symmetrical -- there are reflecting scenes that aren't in perfect opposite sequence, and little mini-mirrors thrown in here and there, to keep the pattern from being too neat.

But definitely there are matching reflected images, the most obvious being the opening scene with Ennis riding in a truck going in one direction at dawn, carrying a bag with two shirts, and the scene near the end of Ennis riding in a truck going in the opposite direction at sunset, carrying a bag with two shirts. In fact, that one is SO obvious it almost seems like a deliberate suggestion to viewers to look for others.




Brown Eyes:
I agree that the mirroring/symmetry/palindrome pattern isn't always completely neat and tidy.  But, there are certainly lots of recurring patterns (as we've all noticed)... sometimes having to do with content/narrative/dialogue and sometimes having to do with subtle things as in how certain shots are composed.

On Friday night while watching BBM the idea of certain shots being composed in similar ways really struck me.  Particularly in the examples on Brokeback where Jack is either standing to the right in the frame (or is entering into the frame from the right) and Ennis is either mounting his horse on the left/already sitting on his horse to the left or riding away to the left.  The three examples of this that I can think of are (1) at the time of the job switch... Ennis is with his horse to the left and Jack approaches from the right and says "you won't get much sleep..." (2) the morning after TS1 (3) the moment immediately following the dozy embrace.

I think the interesting point to bear in mind is that there are patterns... of many kinds and varieties.  And, sometimes different patterns overlap or intertwine.  And, none of this is absolutely precise all the time.  There are some examples that seem pretty precise (like the trucks driving horizontally across the screen/landscape at the beginning at end, but in opposite directions... and like the paper bags at the beginning and at the end) but precision is certainly not the rule.



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