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lovable subtle details
Kelda:
--- Quote from: sparkle_motion on April 28, 2006, 03:45:29 pm ---Brassed Off! There's a movie I haven't thought about in a long time. I loved it when I first saw it.
Speaking of Ewan, I saw a movie of his this weekend called Stay. Not so good.
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Brassed Off rocks! I am a band geek in this typically British way.. I also play in a band which is a little family like this!
ednbarby:
Amanda, I just wanted to mention that I love the Jack=wind metaphor, too. I've made a study of it, and I find that every time he is either in a scene or it's clear Ennis is thinking about him, we hear the wind howling in the background (and sometimes in the foreground). I love how it's almost at a fever pitch outside when Ennis is sitting on his bed in his undershirt with his eyes closed while Alma hugs him from behind, trying with all his might to pretend she is him. Same as when he's in his trailer at the very end, and the wind is just whipping up a frenzy outside.
I also *love* that Aguirre says when Jack returns the next summer looking for Ennis: "Well. Look what the wind blew in." Not look what the cat dragged in which is of course the most common way of saying the same thing, but what the wind blew in.
I should probably post this next bit in the most irrational reactions thread, but it follows here. The wind down here in South Florida has been howling every day for months. It's eerie and giving me a bad feeling about the upcoming hurricane season. March is usually very blowy down here, but February and April aren't so much. When it started up in February after I'd seen the movie a few times and discovered the wind metaphor, I walked outside one morning to get the paper, and it was whipping things up in such a Jack-like way, I just had to say out loud, "Hiya, Jack."
I'm not suffering from insanity - I'm quite enjoying it, actually.
David:
I do recall reading somewhere in an Ang Lee interview about the wind. Ann Proulx always wrote how that the wind was always blowing in Wyoming. Ang noticed this too, but had to use wind machines to get the desired effect on film.
Speaking of subtle things.... when Jack does enter Aguirres trailer that second time, not only does quaid say :"Look what the wind blew in" but notice the ventilation fan built into the wall behind and above Aguirre. When Jack opens the door to enter the fans spins wildly. Again, Ang Lee with the wind!
Damn I love this movie. I wish I could watch it more, but I am tired of crying!
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on April 30, 2006, 05:31:50 pm --- I love how it's almost at a fever pitch outside when Ennis is sitting on his bed in his undershirt with his eyes closed while Alma hugs him from behind, trying with all his might to pretend she is him. Same as when he's in his trailer at the very end, and the wind is just whipping up a frenzy outside.
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Nice way to describe that, Barb.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: fernly on April 30, 2006, 12:12:32 pm ---I love this thread....
--- Quote from: atz75 on April 29, 2006, 11:57:53 pm ----I love that Ennis's excuse to Alma for wanting to stay out all night with Jack is that they might talk all night. Has Ennis ever talked all night with anyone? Would he be capable of that amount of conversation?
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Hey Amanda,
There was a great thread on TOB (and of course, it's gone now) called "Ennis speaks a truth greater than he knows"...and he's doing that here.
While we all know what kind of communicatin is on Ennis' mind (and the rest of him) at that moment you describe, Jack is the one person that Ennis has in his life who he would (and has before) talk with all night, and that's another of the reasons they love each other.
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Hi fernly,
This is a point very well taken. Yes, I agree that one of Jack's major charms for Ennis is his role as confidant. Certainly, conversation and friendship are vital to their relationship. But, still, it makes me chuckle to think that the first excuse that comes to our taciturn and stoic Ennis's mind is that they'll talk. But, maybe it's true. Maybe he's been dying to talk as much as he's been dying to "be with" Jack.
Here's my new idea about Jack and the wind. I even went so far as to post this on the old "Jack and the Wind" imdb thread (one of my rare, relatively recent ventures back there). So, in the beginning when Jack and Ennis are drinking beers in the bar Jack tells his story about his first summer on Brokeback. He talks about the sheep dying in the storm and Aguirre scolding him as if Jack "was supposed to control the weather." Well, if his nature symbol is the wind, then he is supposed to control the weather (since the wind/jet-stream is one of the most important factors in the weather). I don't know what to make of this exactly. But, maybe it has something to do with Jack always leading the way (when they're on horse back and when their making their initial ascent up Brokeback, Jack is almost always in front). In fact, Jack leads the way when they walk to that first bar too. Obviously, he leads the way with the first move in their relationship too.
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