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serious crayons:
Hey everybody, this is a new thread created from a conversation that began on the Brokeback Slang thread. It was getting very OT for that thread, yet was so interesting that I created this thread so the discussion could continue.

It's about whether lesbians are more accepted by society than gay men, and if so why, why men throughout history have held more power than women, and other fascinating questions. It starts where the discussion veered off on the other board, with a question about whether the Oscars would ever pick a gay celebrity as host.

Because it was cut out of another thread it begins a little abruptly, but as you read on in the posts you'll get in the swing of it.



Sashca1007:



--- Quote from: Sheyne on April 20, 2006, 03:39:01 am --- - I mean, you can't see the Oscars giving the host role to an openly gay person, can you? 

--- End quote ---

Umm...  can and did!  ;)

brokebackjack:

--- Quote from: Sashca1007 on June 16, 2007, 06:42:36 pm ---Umm...  can and did!  ;)

--- End quote ---
That's not what  Sheyne  meant, I think<??>

Lesbians are acceptable as hosts, etc.. Gay MALES are not. California will fall into the sea before the studios allow a homo to host the Oscars, the homophobia of execs--quite often Gay EXECS!!!--IS GROTESQUE.

Haven't  :o...and won't, not can and did.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: brokebackjack on June 18, 2007, 03:50:15 pm ---That's not what  Sheyne  meant, I think<??>
--- End quote ---

Though Sheyne's comment is dated April 20, 2006, so she may not have known about Ellen at that point, in any case.

brokebackjack:
by the way, a person looking over my shoulder asked 'So, Who's the CRAYONBABE??'


lolololol


Just had to share that with you.

It's wierd, ''crayonbabe" [lol, I am dyin here]

Why do you think a lesbian is acceptable but a gay man isn't? It baffles me. Gay is gay, right? Yet they would push a gay woman into the limelight and have a canary at the thought of a gay MAN doing what Ellen did...

any thoughts?

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