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"I was supposed to control the weather"... Jack and the Wind
delalluvia:
Ummm, I think in BBM, the wind is blowing because in Wyoming the wind is always blowing.
IMO some things were done for the ambiance and reality of their locales.
I never did buy the Christ-analogy of Jack thing.
He has very little in common with Jesus.
Jack wades through water with a sheep - he doesn't 'walk on water', yes he is a shepherd, but he also wants to shoot and eat the sheep. Hardly a 'good shepherd'.
Lee is Buddhist, IMO he imbued his movie more with eastern religious imagery than western.
Aguirre never said or implied Jack could cure pneumonia, Jack just said he couldn't do anything about it and Aguirre agreed. [shrug].
EnnisLovesJack:
Hey atz!
The second time my sister saw the movie, she thought Jack says "The sheep got all over my ass, like I'm supposed to control the weather!" I couldn't stop laughing.
Especially 'cause she didn't believe me that it's "Aguirre got all over my ass..." till her third viewing. She thought the sheep were afraid 'cause of the lightning, and literally piled up around/on top of Jack, like kids crawling into their parents' bed after a bad dream.
Aussie Chris:
--- Quote from: EnnisLovesJack on May 01, 2006, 08:56:02 pm ---Especially 'cause she didn't believe me that it's "Aguirre got all over my ass..." till her third viewing. She thought the sheep were afraid 'cause of the lightning, and literally piled up around/on top of Jack, like kids crawling into their parents' bed after a bad dream.
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That's too funny! You can just see it can't you? Jack standing there with a confused expression (a little like in the "the hell they are" scene) and there are scores of sheep all around him, clamering to get up into his protective arms. Oh wait, that's me projecting again... ;)
TJ:
Jesus only walked on water one time during a storm and the disciples were already in a ship out on the sea when he did that.
In the Bible, wind and spirit are the very same words in the original languages.
I don't see so much "religion" in the move as much as I see spirituality. Religion is what one does by living by a set of man-made rules. Spiritually has to do with one's relationship with one's higher power, no matter what religious persuasion, his relationship with others, his environment and how he feels about himself.
In the published in book form original story, there is only one paragraph with any connection with religion.
But, in my "Christian" mystic way of thinking at times, I do see that there is lots of spiritual undertones in the movie. I did some study of the Spanish mystic, Santa Teresa of Avila, and in some of her writings and what was written about her, I just believe that she was somewhat Pentecostal by experience. I was a Spanish major in college in the early 1960s and I read what she wrote in Spanish. I had a therapist who had been a former nun (although I did not know it until someone else told me first) and I talked to her about thinking of Teresa with my own meditation experiences.
The Annie Proulx "Water-Walking Jesus" was developed into an on-screen discussion about going to hell because of the fact that it was called a sad hymn and Jack sang it like a funerary song which one might sing on Good Friday.
nakymaton:
--- Quote from: EnnisLovesJack on May 01, 2006, 08:56:02 pm ---She thought the sheep were afraid 'cause of the lightning, and literally piled up around/on top of Jack, like kids crawling into their parents' bed after a bad dream.
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I love this image. :D
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