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"I was supposed to control the weather"... Jack and the Wind
Brown Eyes:
Heya Friends,
:laugh: I quite enjoy the idea of the sheep crawling all over Jack too.
Anyway... TJ, I don't think there's "religion" in the movie in any conventional sense either... I do think the filmmakers play with the symbolism of religion a lot though. To me the symbols are more allegorical or poetic than anything else. And, as I said before, I'm not at all religious myself, but I still found some of the religious symbolism used in the film quite poignant. This topic probably deserves its own thread or two.
But, I'd rather talk about the wind. :D Hey, so I re-watched the divorce scene again tonight and noticed a new wind symbol. Above Ennis sad little shack he has a windmill! But, the whole time we see it the windmill is completely still. It reminds me of that huge, still fan that sits right next to Alma Jr. in the last scene when she's talking to Ennis about the wedding.
I love how the symbol of the wind seems to mirror Jack's personality and role in the movie. He's the "breathe of fresh air" so to speak and the light-hearted one (at least in the beginning). I love the idea that the wind is in constant motion and that's how Jack has to live his life in order to facilitate the relationship with Ennis. He's like the wind blowing back and forth across all those miles, fields, plains, etc. going back and forth between Wyoming and Texas. And on his drive up to see Ennis right before the heartbreaking divorce scene... we can see that he enjoys this driving and the freedom of the road (especially when he thinks Ennis is at the end of the road).
TJ:
In the various discussions of the movie, I see members of the BetterMost forums and other online forums and internet email type groups using eisegesis when discussing the book and the movie.
I tried to do my best to use "exegesis" when reading Annie Proulx's Brokeback Mountain for the first time. In that, I attempted to follow the rules of literary hermeneutics and try to understand the author's own world view of what she was writing about. With exegesis, one does not attempt to read his own ideas/experiences into a story or other piece of literature, to do so is to use "eisegesis."
But, when I saw the movie several weeks after I had read the story, I had a problem with "eisegesis" when I saw the movie because I had read the story first and had some understanding of her POV.
I even feel that Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana used eisegesis in their adaptation of the story into a screenplay. I see that they added people and things which were not even in the book and probably never thought of by Annie Proulx in the first place. And, eisegesis seems to have been used by the movie makers, too.
I consider it eisegesis when people assume "wrang it out" means Ennis masturbated and "stem the rose" meant to "have anal sex with the anus being a 'rose' and a penis being a 'stem'." But, to "wring something out" has to do with thinking of the same thing over and over trying to figure out what it means, sort of like wringing the same piece of cloth over and over trying to figure out why it won't dry. And to "stem the rose" comes from the act of cutting rose blooms off of stems for no purpose whatsoever and that is from the verb, to "stem," which means "remove the stem from a flower or a fruit." Here in Oklahoma, we call removing the stems from berries "hulling them" when we are not putting hulls (stems) on them, we are taking them off.
EnnisLovesJack:
--- Quote ---Oh wait, that's me projecting again... ;)
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eh...potayto, potahto
starboardlight:
let me add a haiku i wrote a while back.
Winds of the mountain
rush through me and I hear him
wispering my name.
EnnisLovesJack:
--- Quote from: starboardlight on May 03, 2006, 12:16:38 am ---let me add a haiku i wrote a while back.
Winds of the mountain
rush through me and I hear him
wispering my name.
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Very nice. I quite like that.
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