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Film-Ennis vs. Story-Ennis and Film-Jack vs. Story-Jack
welliwont:
--- Quote from: Rayn on May 04, 2006, 01:19:12 am ---
......when Jack says, "Tell you what, sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it." and Ennis does nothing. I always thought that was strange, almost cold on his part.
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Hi Rayn:
I am posting this very long post in reply to what you said. I, like you, was very put off by the fact that Ennis did not even deign to reply to Jack when he bared his wounded heart. It seems that there was an earlier version of the screenplay where Ennis did not stay silent after Jack's heartfelt admission.
Here is my post from IMDb:
--- Quote ---Sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it
I just went to check out e-Bay and I came across the following, I think it is interesting, it sure would have made a difference if Ennis had responded after Jack said the line above, intead of just dead silence.
brokeback mountain shooting script screenplay April 04
This rare shooting script is a reprint of a master copy of an April 04 revision of brokeback mountain. On the front page dated "31 March 2004 Draft, Revisions 7 April 2004". This is one of the earlist version which is different than the "Story to Screenplay" that you can get from the store. IT ALSO CONTAINS LINES AND SENCES WHICH WERE EITHER NEVER SHOT, OR DELITED OUT OF THE FINAL VERSION.
For example, when Ennis says "You know I ain't queer." and Jack replies "Me neither." In this shooting script Jack replies "WHO SAID YOU WAS?
Another example, in the film Ennis says nothing after Jack says "Tell you what, truth is, I miss you so much sometimes" but in this script, Ennis replies "I KNOW THE FEELING".
Some other differences include the order of the shirts hanging in Ennis's closet is reversed in this shooting script. The final shot of the film is different in this shooting script. During the tent scene in which Jack and Ennis get intimate, the camera pulls out of the tent and the viewer gets to look at the landscape while they listen to Jack and Ennis making love, when they're finished, the camera goes back inside the tent and the audience sees them falling asleep. This shooting script also include the extensive sence, which according to Heath Ledger that was wasted a week of shooting time and was completely cut out from the version you've seen in theatres. THIS IS THE SCENCE WHERE JACK AND ENNIS RESCUING A GROOUP OF PEOPLE FROM A VAN WHICH DRIVES INTO A RIVER (pg. #105). There are more differences lines/scences from this script than the film. This shooting script is 113 pages and printed on one side. Measures 8 1/2 x 11 1/2 inch on white paper.Winner pays $15 shipping /handing in USA and Canada only. International will be $25US. I accept paypal, international money order or cash only and no bidder with negative feedback please. Thank you and happy bidding.
Here is the link if you want to look at it yourselves:
http://cgi.ebay.com/brokeback-mountain-shooting-script-screenplay-April-04_W0QQitemZ7618771452QQcategoryZ18833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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serious crayons:
Wow, J, interesting. I guess I would have liked to see the "I know the feeling" in there, because I am also saddened by Ennis not responding to Jack's touching admission.
But the rest of the stuff on that screeenplay, I'm glad they didn't do.
Rayn:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on May 04, 2006, 03:28:21 pm ---That has always bothered me, too. But others have suggested it's because he feels guilty, knowing that he has to tell Jack he won't be back til November. He does look grim, rather than indifferent or incommunicative. Still, I wasn't sure until I watched the final argument/quit you scene today. Now I'm pretty convinced -- he looks so nervous before breaking the news and waits until literally the last possible moment, as Jack is climbing into his truck. Obviously he has been dreading it. And rightly so!
Another difference: Story Ennis seems much less internally homophobic.
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Hmmm good point on the guilt and nervousness in Ennis the night before.. yeah. And I too think you're right on about Story Ennis... Thanks,
Rayn
starboardlight:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on May 05, 2006, 02:05:35 pm ---OK, here's one. Both Movie Ennis and Movie Jack are far more handsome than their story counterparts. In that sense, the story is more realistic; chances seem pretty slim that two randomly selected cowboys would both be that hot. The descriptions in the story sound a lot more like real-life cowboys would probably look.
Anybody here wish the movie had been more faithful to the story in that respect?
Also, the movie versions are also much less colloquial in their speech. Which is fine with me. The colloquialisms of the story are colorful and well-written and evoke a sense of place, but to me they are also a bit distancing.
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i am curious to see how it would work out. I think of Beautiful Thing, where the two boys, though beautiful in their ways, are not "hot" in the conventional sense. Yet the audience still fell in love with the two characters. I do think that Ang Lee could have pulled it off with two less handsome actors, if they were as talented.
TJ:
If you wish to discuss the importance of Annie Proulx's Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar and her original short story and its impact on gays and lesbians BEFORE the movie was made, go to this link: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=1225.0
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