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Black Hats, White Hats
mouk:
--- Quote ---I agree with much of what you've said, but in one thing I disagree: Jack proposing a move to Texas was not a slip. The topic may have come from Ennis' side, not initiated by Jack. But he saw the chance and was determined to use it. Look at his face and his tone, the casual manner was only pretended (when he shrugs while mentioning it). And Ennis knows it. That's (one of the reasons) why he blows up right the next second.
It may have been spontanously, but notwithstanding deliberate.
Missed chance, I'd say. May have been better to take Ennis' concerns more serious instead of using them for his (absolutely legitimate) goal. Jack was trying to take advantage of Ennis' revelation.
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Yep, Pentesilea, on second thoughts, I totally agree with you :)
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on January 17, 2007, 12:37:06 pm ---Jack would want to have a clean shirt on for Ennis, as well as Ennis for Jack. Remember Ennis checking his shirts as he packed them for that very same trip?
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I always get the sense that Ennis is checking to see that the shirts are not actually clean, but merely clean enough by his standards.
These two are hot for each other's sweet, salty stink. I don't think Tide is their preferred scent.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Ellemeno on January 18, 2007, 02:23:33 am ---sweet, salty stink
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Cameron:
--- Quote from: mouk on January 17, 2007, 11:28:14 am ---Penthesilea, Latjoreme, hi! Thanks for the welcome, I am enjoing this thread.
The bus station - like you I always found it strange that he was in a bus station of all places. Especially considering that he seemed to have his favourite bar in town. It was the mention of men with black and white hats buying tickets (I have not spotted them yet, look forward to yet another detail to take in) that gave me this idea, as, like you, I have always been of the opinion that by that time Ennis was ready for some change. Probably going somewhere metaphorically rather than geographically for the time being (eg giving more of his time to Jack), but who knows, perhaps he was finally starting to give more consideration to that cow and calf operation?
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Hi,
I just wanted to jump back in to the bus station discussion. That was something that I wondered about. To me it was one of the most heartbreaking images, to see Ennis sitting all alone in the bus station with no other people at the tables at all. I first thought how incredibly sad, that this is what his life is now reduced to. But then I decided that he chose to be in a place like that, he could have gone to the bar that he was in before, but he chose to be there all alone. In my viewpoint the breakdown at the lake left him so depressed and in such despair that he didn't want to be in a place where he could have met other people. I think that at the lake finally admitted to himself that he couldn't live without Jack, but maybe he felt like Jack left him alreadly.. (I wish we knew what they said after Ennis was crying in Jacks arms.) I think he chose to be in a place where he was totally alone because he was so broken and depressed at that point.
I believe thatthe conversation with Cassie changed him, when she said "I don't get you ...." I think that made him realize what he was doing to people and then he decided to change, and mailed the postcard to Jack.
:-X :-X :-X
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Ellemeno on January 18, 2007, 02:23:33 am ---I always get the sense that Ennis is checking to see that the shirts are not actually clean, but merely clean enough by his standards.
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Yes, you don't really need to sniff a clean shirt -- it's hanging in the closet all fresh and washed. You sniff the ones you pick up off the floor or dig out from the dirty clothes pile. Don't ask how I know that. ;D
--- Quote from: marlb42 on January 18, 2007, 09:03:58 pm --- I think that at the lake finally admitted to himself that he couldn't live without Jack,
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This is how I see it, marlb42. :-\
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