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Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: Brown Eyes on January 14, 2014, 03:52:00 pm ---So, I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard this? 
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No, I've never heard of this. Which doesn't mean much.



--- Quote ---And, I also wonder if it is the case... if it could have some interesting ramifications for BBM?  I'll have to go back and watch the movie to see if and when various characters lose their hats (or keep their hats in improbable moments).

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Scenes from the top of my head:

- the angry tussle; here both of their hats get knocked off.

- Jack's hat gets knocked off in the heat of the reunion scene.

- Ennis' hat gets not knocked off when he beats up the bikers

- but it does years later, when he gets beat up by the truck driver

- both of their hats do not get knocked off at the end of the lake scene argument (damn you, Ennis), which seems odd to me. Well, not Jack's, but Ennis' hat should come off the way/angle he clings to Jack.

- does Ennis' hat get knocked off when he falls off his horse as he encounters the bear? I think yes, but not sure.

Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: Penthesilea on January 15, 2014, 03:05:01 am ---- does Ennis' hat get knocked off when he falls off his horse as he encounters the bear? I think yes, but not sure.


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Nope, it doesn't, which is again odd.

Brown Eyes:
Thanks for all these observations Chrissi!!  It seems like this actually might be a significant issue.  It's amazing how new angles of analysis can still emerge after all these years.  It does seem like they keep their hats in moments when they are meant to be particularly sympathetic.
 :D

i wonder how this issue relates to female characters?  I keep thinking of the barrel racing scene with Lureen where her hat flies off and Jack gets it for her.

Penthesilea:
Paul brought up another example where they keep their hats off, even though it seems against probability:


--- Quote from: southendmd on January 15, 2014, 01:59:09 pm ---Interesting that only Ennis is wearing the hat; must have been very difficult to film the dozy embrace without knocking off each other's hats!

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But if you ask me, it's purely for the looks in that scene, I don't see any other significance in the fact that they keep their hats on other that it looks simply glorious.

Monika:

--- Quote from: Penthesilea on January 16, 2014, 01:38:16 am ---Paul brought up another example where they keep their hats off, even though it seems against probability:


But if you ask me, it's purely for the looks in that scene, I don't see any other significance in the fact that they keep their hats on other that it looks simply glorious.

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I think the hats were left on to reinforce the fact that  they are cowboys (I know - sheep hearders - but still).
Cowboys are such an integral part of American folklore.
A fact that no doubt makes it more provoking to some, too.

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