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TOTW 07/07: Was Mr. Twist homophobic?
Brown Eyes:
Yes, I think in his comments to Ennis, OMT is trying very hard to let Ennis know that Jack's sexuality was well-understood. He seems to even be trying to let Ennis know that he (OMT) knows more about certain aspects of Jack's sexuality than Ennis does. OMT is able to provide Ennis with the new information about the "other fellow"... for example.
I think we're meant to perceive Ennis as being surprised at the fact that Jack mentioned him at home to his mother and OMT... seemingly for many years over the course of their relationship. Ennis learns that their relationship really wasn't as secret as he throught.
Artiste:
Merci atz !
You say:
Yes, I think in his comments to Ennis, OMT is trying very hard to let Ennis know that Jack's sexuality was well-understood. He seems to even be trying to let Ennis know that he (OMT) knows more about certain aspects of Jack's sexuality than Ennis does. OMT is able to provide Ennis with the new information about the "other fellow"... for example.
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Atz, may I say that you say that beautifully !
And, so is OMT calling Ennis a fool ?
May I ask,
hugs!
Front-Ranger:
I am inclined to agree with you, sadly, Artiste after thinking about it. I think OMT was condemning Ennis as a fool.
He was a sad, bitter old man who had lost his farm, his spirit, and, at last, his only son. I think he was consumed with grief and one of the earliest stages of grief is anger, leading on to despair and bitterness.
In fact, now that I think about it, the way OMT acted was similar to the way I saw a few people react after the death of Heath Ledger. It can bring out the worst in people. I've seen people lash out in a vindictive manner, even hatefully. Grief can change people radically. Hopefully it is temporary.
But through it all, I don't think OMT was homophobic because that would mean that he'd be repulsed by his own son. And I don't think that was the case.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 25, 2008, 05:44:10 pm ---I am inclined to agree with you, sadly, Artiste after thinking about it. I think OMT was condemning Ennis as a fool.
He was a sad, bitter old man who had lost his farm, his spirit, and, at last, his only son. I think he was consumed with grief and one of the earliest stages of grief is anger, leading on to despair and bitterness.
In fact, now that I think about it, the way OMT acted was similar to the way I saw a few people react after the death of Heath Ledger. It can bring out the worst in people. I've seen people lash out in a vindictive manner, even hatefully. Grief can change people radically. Hopefully it is temporary.
But through it all, I don't think OMT was homophobic because that would mean that he'd be repulsed by his own son. And I don't think that was the case.
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I am very glad to read what you said. I have always felt that OMT was poignant and sad, not angry. Defensive, not attacking. I noticed that others didn't feel this way, and some seemed to need to see OMT as a terrible homophobic father who victimized and made fun of his son. I took a different view that OMT was deeply disappointed in his son, and regretted never being able to really be close to him.
Also, I saw a subtext in OMT's kitchen dialog with Ennis. I imagined OMT really saying to Ennis: "You loved my son, why didn't you protect him? I loved my son, why couldn't I protect him?" and in the end, all OMT could do is protect Jack's ashes from someone that he now wanted to see as an outsider.
Front-Ranger:
--- Quote from: oilfieldtrash on April 25, 2008, 08:09:14 pm --- I imagined OMT really saying to Ennis: "You loved my son, why didn't you protect him? I loved my son, why couldn't I protect him?" and in the end, all OMT could do is protect Jack's ashes from someone that he now wanted to see as an outsider.
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Yes, I agree with you OFT. :'(
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