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brokebackjack:
But Iran is not Turkey, nor is it Malaysia.

There are many Islamic countries, some are fine and some are terrible. Brokeplex is right, it is the rightwing Islamo-fascist groups who are a danger. A terrible danger. To counteract them we need to support the most tolerant nations.

Nobody is murdered in modern Turkey for being gay. Nobody. They are not arrested. They are not harassed. I know gay people in Istanbul who say they felt more awkward and endangered as gay men in Italy then they had ever felt in Turkey. Half the Sultans of Turkey were bisexual! And the Ottoman sultans were Caliph -al-islam, the Islamic 'Pope'

You cannot say islam as a religion is vile. Some of its' practitioners are vile. And those vile ones are indeed a danger, for the whole world. But Islam as islam? No

Artiste:
Thanks brokenbackjack!

Since you brought up that subject, there have been recent documentary reports saying that Turkey is over 90 per cent islamic and that even if there is a present law, that the women more and more are obliged to wore veils; so it is going back to disobeying reasonable laws? To having ladies becoming slaves again, as in other islamic countries?

Even in Canada and the USA, we see now veiled women!! And that is freedom?? I do NOT see them females as free!!

Concerning the canadian laws, they are more and more disobeyed by the islamics here!! And they beat up or murder their own who talk FOR FREEDOM!! Here now!!

Yes, in many islamic countries there are men dancing together in bars, because they do NOT allow women in ANY bars!! And yes,  some men there do seem to be gay men, but even them will kill or be killed in the name of islam!!

You know that?

Hugs!

Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: Artiste on October 21, 2007, 09:34:38 am ---
Concerning the canadian laws, they are more and more disobeyed by the islamics here!!

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Do you have any proof for your disciminating statements?

Artiste:
Thanks Penthesilea!

One example: in Quebec now next year, it will be against the law in Catholic schools to teach catholic religion, as it did for hundrenths of years, in Canada!

The islamics have twisted our laws, and continue to do so! You know that?

Hugs!

Scott6373:

--- Quote from: Artiste on October 21, 2007, 10:01:12 am ---Thanks Penthesilea!

One example: in Quebec now next year, it will be against the law in Catholic schools to teach catholic religion, as it did for hundrenths of years, in Canada!

The islamics have twisted our laws, and continue to do so! You know that?

Hugs!

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This is a very ill-informed statement.  Muslims are no more responsable for the current state of the Catholic Church than I am for the increase in the heterosexual divorce rate.  I would love to read the actual Canadian law that states that religious education will be illegal in private Catholic (or any other private) school.  Perhaps you have misinterpreted something.

Islam, Catholicism, or whichever religious tradition you may call your own, is not the culprit.  Narrow minded ignorance is.  That is what we should be fighting, not perpetuating.

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