Complete title: Let No One Put Asunder: The Legal Recognition of Same Sex Marriage in Canada (2004)
A documentary from Canada. Here is an interview with the director:
SEVEN QUESTIONS
Alexis Fosse Mackintosh
August 10 , 2004
Derrick O'Keefe
The 16th annual Out on Screen, Vancouver Queer Film and Video Festival, is currently underway. Billed as the city's premier queer arts event, it boasts over 200 films, workshops, forums and parties, running from August 5-15.
Alexis Fosse Mackintosh is the director of a new documentary, Let No One Put Asunder: the legal recognition of same sex marriage in Canada, which premieres on Saturday, August 14 as part of the festival. Notwithstanding her renown as a director and producer, Mackintosh is also the filmmaker who caught Randy White telling too much of the truth about the Conservatives intentions during the recent election campaign.
Seven Oaks editor Derrick O'Keefe spoke with her about White, the new film, and the state of struggles for gay and lesbian rights.
1) Seven Oaks: What was your motivation for undertaking this documentary project?
The motivation is pure and simple: human rights. This is the defining human rights issue of the decade and I'm a very strong supporter of human rights, and that's why I got involved.
2) What is the significance of the title, Let No One Put Asunder?
It's a phrase from the bible. It is what's used in the marriage ceremony, "what God has joined, let no man put asunder." It is one of those key statements about marriage, biblical marriage, and we thought that was important.
3) Do you see the results of the federal election as, in part, a vindication of ongoing struggles for gay and lesbian rights?
I think it can be seen as a victory for human rights, a victory for minority rights, a victory for really every Canadian. Freedom has to be freedom for everybody, and I think that's really what this is about.
4) Do you think similar breakthroughs will follow in other countries?
I think you are going to see it become an issue throughout the world. A gay marriage law was brought forward in England. The House of Lords shot it down because, well, they're the House of Lords. In Australia, it is going to be an election issue. They are trying to be sure that it won't be an election issue, but it clearly will be. It's an election issue in the United States. Germany is now recognizing some form of same-sex marriage. Throughout Europe we are seeing changes. Spain was being threatened by the Pope over the fact that they were going to enact same-sex marriage legislation. So I think you are going to see a change throughout the modern world.
5) You were the person who did the now infamous Randy White interview, where he talks about using the notwithstanding clause more frequently, and specifically against gay marriage. The release of the interview was a real turning point in the election campaign. How did you get the interview in the first place?
Randy White was a wonderful interview. I was very direct from the start. I said I was doing a documentary on same-sex marriage and that I wanted someone from the 'no' side who could articulate that position. He was very open to do that, he spoke very clearly and articulately, and he spoke the feelings of his constituency. He got 20 000 more votes that his nearest competitor. The people in the Abbottsford area really want him to represent them.
6) So what clearly hurt the Conservative campaign federally, might have helped Randy White in his local campaign?
Exactly, and I think that's one of the things people have to realize, that there really is a plurality of opinion on this issue in Canada. And Randy White represents a minority of Canadians. I think the latest survey says 57% of Canadians think same-sex marriage is a human right.
7) What do you see as the next frontier in terms of human rights for gays and lesbians in Canada and worldwide?
I think the next forefront issue is going to be equality for transgendered people who are very much a marginalized population. I think they need to be written into the human rights codes. And then, you know, changing the rest of the world. Some religions still don't let women in the ministry, there's a lot to be changed in the world. There are some places where women can't vote, some places where they throw you in jail because you are gay.
Next up: M in 15. Can it be done?