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tampatalon:
--- Quote from: Artiste on November 14, 2007, 05:37:09 pm ---Thanks tampatalon!
Boy, oh boy!! I am more puzzled!!
Instead of spouses and grooms, why don't they have the word: partners?? As a choice??
You think that too??
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Artiste! I am so glad you asked this question. Same-sex marriage in Canada is EQUAL to opposite-sex marriage in all manner. IMO opinion by using a different partner term would lessen this equality, therefore we are both grooms. I am very proud that were grooms. We did have bestman and a groomsmaid instead of a bridesmaid. I consider my self married with my rights denied here in Florida.
That you so much Artiste, you are forwarding the cause by asking such good questions!
TampaTalon^">
Artiste:
Thanks tampatalon!
I understand that now and thank you very much!
Do you think that such forms could be changed in Ontario as well as in some state like yours??
Hugs!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Artiste on November 14, 2007, 07:15:31 pm ---Thanks tampatalon!
I understand that now and thank you very much!
Do you think that such forms could be changed in Ontario as well as in some state like yours??
Hugs!
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Artiste, your confusion is natural. Most US citizens including the people most affected by the issue do not really understand the present transitional state in the US over the issue of same sex marriage. Because of the US Federal system, some states and localities have moved far in the direction of granting equal status to same sex couples, some have made some progress, other localities (the vast majority) have made no movement at all in that direction. So,right now it is still a crazy quilt of different laws and administrative procedures in different states and localities.
Historically, this has been the process in all great social and civil rights movements in US history. Example, some states granted women the right to vote decades before it was made constitutionally legal by Federal action. Another example, some states forbade discrimination against Blacks a over century before non-discrimination was mandated by Federal law, meanwhile othe states had vicious laws restricting the activity and rights of Blacks.
My suspicion is Same Sex marriage will follow a similar path, certainly not taking a century to fully implement, but it will take time for a general consensus to emerge nation-wide and for the laws to become uniform across the US.
I want to thank "Tampatalon" for sharing his life with us. He is on the front lines, testing the laws letting us know how employers and governmental agencies are handling the issue right now. I can see similar scenarios developing for same sex couples all over the country as this decade unfolds.
Artiste:
Thanks brokeplex! Thanks tampatalon! Thanks to others too!!!
I sure wish that those thoughts and laws came sooner!
I want to know more about gay mariage... any more facts about it?
Hugs!
tampatalon:
--- Quote from: Artiste on November 20, 2007, 07:35:55 pm ---Thanks brokeplex! Thanks tampatalon! Thanks to others too!!!
I sure wish that those thoughts and laws came sooner!
I want to know more about gay mariage... any more facts about it?
Hugs!
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Artiste, For what ever reason, statistics from Canada and Massachusett show that the gals are out pacing the
dudes having more or less 65% Bride-Bride Ceremonies compared to the 35% for Goom-Groom Ceremonies. Does this
suggest that the guys are afraid of commitment?I wonder if we compared this to strait males unmarried.
I certainly hope it would not compare to anything because would this suggest that 65 % of males are afraid of
commitment in general, strait and gay or dose this indicate they cannot find that special partner. Maybe someone can give us a clue on this non-commitment issue/or cannot find the right partner?
TampaTalon^">
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