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The story flashback about Jack's dad peeing on him
serious crayons:
Oh, that's right! How could I forget? Thanks, Chrissi. That's a good thread.
LauraGigs:
--- Quote from: Artiste on November 13, 2007, 10:21:32 am ---It seems to me that fathers are rarely treated as good ones in films, as neither are Ennis and Jack's in the BM film!!
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Yes, good point Artiste. More often than not, characters are introduced with 'baggage' (such as unloving fathers) to explain their complicated natures and enrich the plot.
--- Quote --- . . . but also how Ennis and Jack become to accept and love) each other, since each grew up nearly alone mentally in some ways, and that makes it surely a common thought for bonding!! I was always surprised and shocked that Ennis allows Jack to kiss him in that second tent scene of tenderness, and much more so when Ennis does kiss Jack!! Why? The pissing acts helped??
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I wouldn't say the pissing all by itself. But it is the general lack of love and emotional abandonment by Jack and Ennis' fathers that make the second tent scene so believable and moving.
For a few moments, Jack even cradles Ennis and rocks him back and forth, like a little baby. And as out of character as it may seem for Ennis to accept such a form of affection, it's not so shocking given his his deprivation of that kind of love by his dad.
Artiste:
Thanks LauraGigs!
I do not know why Jack rocks Ennis in the second tent scene. That rocking replaces Ennis' mother? In a way?
At least Jack does not piss on Ennis!! So... both lives are changing, are not like their fathers were/are that much??
So, this is part of the sexual revolution of the sixties: CARESSING??
Hugs!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Artiste on November 13, 2007, 05:35:05 pm ---Thanks LauraGigs!
I do not know why Jack rocks Ennis in the second tent scene. That rocking replaces Ennis' mother? In a way?
At least Jack does not piss on Ennis!! So... both lives are changing, are not like their fathers were/are that much??
So, this is part of the sexual revolution of the sixties: CARESSING??
Hugs!
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I think that it was just a display of normal human feeling. Ennis was showing that he cared for Jack, and Jack responded. It was important to Jack throughout his life because it was a moment when Jack felt loved! simple as that.......
Artiste:
Thanks brokeplex!
But I do not think that Ennis would have hugged Jack then?? !!
Certainly not kissed Jack!! ??
That, to me, were 2 gestures, much too early in their relationtionship!! ?? To you too?
Sure Jack talks about his dad peeing on him... and Ennis shares thoughts too, but only few ones!!
Hugs!
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