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TOTW 13/07: Their last day on the mountain
Penthesilea:
According to Annie, the angry tussle, ending with the punch, took place in the afternoon. It's in the last few pages of the story, when Ennis discovers the shirts in Jack's closet and remembers the scene:
"Jack's old shirt from Brokeback days. The dried blood on the sleeve was his own blood, a gushing nosebleed on the last afternoon on the mountain when Jack, in their contortionistic grappling and wrestling, had slammed Ennis's nose hard with his knee."
I guess they wouldn't have started taking the sheep down in the afternoon, but maybe they had broken the camp (except for the most necessary things) one day and started their way down with the sheep the next morning. Or maybe the angry tussle+punch did not take place where their camp had been, but they were already on their way downwards to meet to trucks and other men.
Luvlylittlewing:
--- Quote from: tenn_man on November 04, 2007, 01:27:16 am ---Could it be that they are just 19 or 20 years old , and have not fully stepped into the shoes of experienced adult people like ourselves, who are trying to place rational reasons on all of their actions?? Speaking for myself, I did many things at that age that would now seem odd, or impetuous. I think men, especially under their circumstances and in 1963, might well do and say the things that they did. I think Ennis was hurt and confused, and I think Jack was using whatever familiar means he knew (lasso), to reach out and grab Ennis. It was a simple gesture, at first meant to say "I love you and want you to be with me" or, " Hey, its not so bad, we still have each other", and in the turmoil of youthful innocence, turned into the playful brawl of boys. Two men, very young, unable to cope with their feelings, expressing adult emotions, but not yet skilled. Many of us have been through this. I do not see the same hidden meanings in these scenes as others suggest. To me it is very simple. I feel what they feel. They express it as boys do. The simple emotion is still beautiful at this point of the movie. The shirts are a testament to the this youthful innocent bliss. One of the most powerful statements from beginning to end.
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What a heart achingly beautiful post, tenn man! I'm crying, I swear I am!
Front-Ranger:
It suddenly struck me today: What happened to the pup tent when Joe Aguirre said to "bring 'em down"?? Did it stay up there on the mountain all winter? No wonder it smelled like cat piss or worse!!
Marina:
--- Quote ---Could it be that they are just 19 or 20 years old , and have not fully stepped into the shoes of experienced adult people like ourselves, who are trying to place rational reasons on all of their actions?? Speaking for myself, I did many things at that age that would now seem odd, or impetuous. I think men, especially under their circumstances and in 1963, might well do and say the things that they did. I think Ennis was hurt and confused, and I think Jack was using whatever familiar means he knew (lasso), to reach out and grab Ennis. It was a simple gesture, at first meant to say "I love you and want you to be with me" or, " Hey, its not so bad, we still have each other", and in the turmoil of youthful innocence, turned into the playful brawl of boys. Two men, very young, unable to cope with their feelings, expressing adult emotions, but not yet skilled. Many of us have been through this. I do not see the same hidden meanings in these scenes as others suggest. To me it is very simple. I feel what they feel. They express it as boys do. The simple emotion is still beautiful at this point of the movie. The shirts are a testament to the this youthful innocent bliss. One of the most powerful statements from beginning to end.
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ITA, I saw it exactly this way, and I can totally identify as well.
There are so many powerful scenes in this movie, and the leaving scene is one of them. I haven't watched Brokeback in awhile now, so I hope I remember correctly. So many emotions are expressed on Jacks face, and when he finally leaves in the truck, I can see him take a breath as if to bear it and accept it. Jack had so much strength, even helping Ennis to stand it at times. Ennis has more trouble - for all his stoic behavior - he really had a lot of passion under the suface, and sometimes he just couldn't hide it.
Sason:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on August 19, 2010, 10:26:50 pm ---It suddenly struck me today: What happened to the pup tent when Joe Aguirre said to "bring 'em down"?? Did it stay up there on the mountain all winter? No wonder it smelled like cat piss or worse!!
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Didn't Aguirre tell them to not leave the tent behind?
I'm guessing Ennis brought it down with him.
(i'm too tired now to check the movie)
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