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We gay men are MORE than 10 per cent?
David In Indy:
Here he is Tampatalon!
I wish he would move in my avatar, but he doesn't. Isn't that cool looking? :D
Kd5000:
--- Quote from: David on November 27, 2007, 04:29:18 pm ---No, you are fine Karl. Thanks for posting! :D
But even if we are only 5 percent of the US population, this means there is 15 million of us! 5 percent may not sound like very much, but 15 million people constitutes the entire population of many countries! That's an awful lot of people to be discriminating against. I wish our US government would start thinking about people, rather than percentages. The Republicans are especially good at doing these sorts of things. ::) >:(
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5 percent is alot of ppl. The Jewisih population of the USA is around 5%. They have a large impact despite the fact that they are not the majority religion. A country like ours should not be judged with just how they treat their majorities, but how they treat their minorities.
tampatalon:
--- Quote from: David on November 27, 2007, 06:10:06 pm ---Here he is Tampatalon!
I wish he would move in my avatar, but he doesn't. Isn't that cool looking? :D
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He is beautifully done!
:) :) :)
TampaTalon^">
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Kd5000 on November 27, 2007, 08:30:21 pm --- 5 percent is alot of ppl. The Jewisih population of the USA is around 5%. They have a large impact despite the fact that they are not the majority religion. A country like ours should not be judged with just how they treat their majorities, but how they treat their minorities.
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I think the US society should be judged as to how all citizens are treated. However,we should be especially cognizant of the weakest members of the society, children, the elderly, the handicapped. As a gay man, I do not wish to placed in any special categories, for good or ill.
In reference to the above 5% figure quoted above concerning adherents to Jewish congregations, I'd like to offer that US Census figures show their percentage of the total population to be closer to 2%. Any group who evidence high educational attainments and higher than average income levels will have an impact on society. Self-identified US Jewish citizens are among several minorities in that category.
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on November 28, 2007, 10:19:27 am ---
In reference to the above 5% figure quoted above concerning adherents to Jewish congregations, I'd like to offer that US Census figures show their percentage of the total population to be closer to 2%. Any group who evidence high educational attainments and higher than average income levels will have an impact on society. Self-identified US Jewish citizens are among several minorities in that category.
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A large number of US gay men and women also fall into this group. :)
For most gay Americans though, our problem (or rather lack of obvious impact on society) lies not with our higher incomes and advanced education, but rather our unwillingness in many cases to openly admit our sexual orientation. We continue to contribute to society, yet the rewards and benefits from our contributions are not proportional to those of other ethnic groups.
I am not talking about free handouts here. I totally agree with you. I can give you a perfect example. Due to my Native American heritage, I am entitled to certain benefits from the US government. My Dad is furious with me because I never signed up to receive any of them. Why should I? Why should I benefit from something my ancestors experienced? Yes, my ancestors were removed forcefully from their tribal lands and relocated elsewhere, and yes I am the sum total of all my ancestors, but for some reason it just feels wrong to me. I don't feel like I am entitled to it.
I think gay people want to be accepted. It's as simple as that. We would like to be treated like any other member of society. But sometimes I think it's our fault because of our refusal to openly admit who we are. Or maybe it's society's fault because of the hostility we are met with once we do come out and admit it. It's complicated. And we will never know for certain what percentage of society we are, until we feel comfortable and accepted within the American social landscape.
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