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TOTW 16/07: Did Alma Jr. know Ennis was gay?
Katie77:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on December 01, 2007, 09:59:13 pm ---
BBM is a tragedy, and not just for Ennis and Jack. Ang wanted us to see how the chains of keeping people from being themselves creates pain and misery not just for those directly affected, but for everyone around them - and that includes their wives and children.
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Perfect way of describing BBM....absolutely......
It was not a competition of who was hurting or was hurt the most.....everyone was hurting, and regardless of what they were hurting about, the hurt still hurts, and those involved make descision emotionally trying to not hurt those around them, but no matter how much they try to do that, somehow, everyone still gets hurt in some way or another.......
Artiste:
Thanks to all of you! Since you have been many replying to my last reply, I am happy about your replies!!
All of you sure awake me with your may details!! I learn this way! And many others will too! We all educate ourselves this way! This subject puzzled me a great deal, and still does. At least, some answers were given which I accept!
Now, let us turn the story, a bit. What if Ennis was the STAY AT HOME SPOUSE?? Yes, him only the houseperson? Give me details? They would be the same?
(TOO: Then, Alma Jr. would have know EARLIER that her father was a bi or gay man??)
Hugs!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Artiste on December 02, 2007, 03:09:09 pm ---Thanks to all of you! Since you have been many replying to my last reply, I am happy about your replies!!
All of you sure awake me with your may details!! I learn this way! And many others will too! We all educate ourselves this way! This subject puzzled me a great deal, and still does. At least, some answers were given which I accept!
Now, let us turn the story, a bit. What if Ennis was the STAY AT HOME SPOUSE?? Yes, him only the houseperson? Give me details? They would be the same?
(TOO: Then, Alma Jr. would have know EARLIER that her father was a bi or gay man??)
Hugs!
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A stay at home Ennis househusband is completely out of character with the times and the slice of Wyoming demographic pie that AP is serving up. It is just too inconsistent with the Ennis character as defined by AP to seriously consider. Now Jack on the other hand......hmmm that is worth considering. Jack might have made a perfect househusband, that is with the time he had left over from seeing Ennis and "rendezvousing" with other men in the Childress area.
LauraGigs:
I agree with Brokeplex here. Artiste, do you remember the scene when Ennis is following Alma out of the apartment and yelling at her out on the street, because she took the extra shift at work (even though she had still cooked dinner for him and the girls)?
The point is, even though he worked and was the primary breadwinner, he was bothered by that. He never would have accepted a spouse being the primary wage-earner and he the house-husband. It just wouldn't happen.
Artiste:
Thanks LauraGigs, and thanks brokeplex!!
LauraGigs, firstly I will try to add or reply to your comment. Of course, Ennis was bothered because his wife went for the second shift, likely so since he considered himself a man, a spouse and a father, and the primary breadwinner then. But may I wonder if his wife wanted him to be the primary breadwinner? May I ask?
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brokeplex: Ennis, I figure, would have made a good houseperson, since he loved his children, and may I say his love too was for his wife!
Regarding that, when my father became ill, he stayed at home. Luckily, mother was forced as such to go to work outside the house, since she was the houseperson before that! That bothered father for the rest of his life that he could not anymore provide for her and us kids!! It would have been a shame to get welfare then... but none would have been given even.
In Montréal last November 2007, I was shocked (surprised too) as well as pleased finally when I asked a male young artist I was exhibiting with at an art exhibition there in that city, what kind of work he did, and that he told me that he was the houseperson and that his wife worked outside the house!! They have kids too!! I am still puzzled... by that! Since, he wants to work as that, plus or more, I felt??
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So yes it would have happened then and would be now too that Ennis would have been an houseperson!!
May I say, yes!
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That is one more reason for me to say that Alma Jr. knew that her father was bi or gay!! May I guess!! ??
hugs, hugs!!
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