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Joe Aguirre: what do you think of this character as portrayed in the movie?
Monika:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on January 08, 2009, 11:36:46 am ---
But he understood that the 25% loss of the previous year hadn't been Jack's fault. That's why he hired two guys the next year; "bad predator loss, nobody near looking after em at night". Jack couldn't watch the sheep 24 hours a day, he had to sleep, take on other chores, get supplies, etc.
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This makes a lot of sense, I think. I have often wondered why many assumed that Jack had company on Brokeback the year before. It seems to me that the whole camp tender/ sheep hearder deal was pretty new to Jack as well.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 08, 2009, 10:54:46 am ---Good point, friend. I never thought of Jack that way before, but you're right. To go back to sheepherding just as rodeo season was getting underway...but you can tell from the state of his truck that he's pretty desperate.
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This is a really good observation... you're right that Jack is taking up this job just as rodeo season traditionally would be heating up... and it seems this was the case the previous year too for his first year on Brokeback.
It makes me wonder about how much rodeo experience he actually had before he joined the rodeo circuit after his time with Ennis. We know he somehow earned at least one rodeo belt buckle prior to meeting Ennis. It seems this would have to have happened when he was really very young. It makes me wonder more about how his life had gone prior to his two Brokeback summers.
Monika:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 08, 2009, 10:54:46 am ---Can you blame him, given his childhood, not being able to finish school, always a "fifth wheel" in someone else's home, even getting beaten up at night by his brother, and with that cruel miserable excuse of a dad?
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No, I can´t blame him. He never had anyone to give him a sense of self-worth. Ennis never got the chance to become the man he could have been. :( I think a lot of things in the story is about that, all the what-could-have-beens. About who Ennis could have been, about who Jack could have been and about what kind of life they could have had together.
--- Quote ---Good point, friend. I never thought of Jack that way before, but you're right. To go back to sheepherding just as rodeo season was getting underway...but you can tell from the state of his truck that he's pretty desperate.
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Yeah, he probably needed money fast. And as you and Chrissie point out, the whole lodgin situation probably was an important factor.
mariez:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on January 08, 2009, 11:36:46 am ---... both high school dropout country boys with no prospects.... that's why they applied for the job. The world and the better jobs didn't exactly wait for them. :-\
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I've always been intrigued by the idea that in the short story AP stresses the ways in which J&E are alike; but in the film, there is more of an effort to highlight the ways in which they are different.
Marie
Front-Ranger:
Here are some other interesting threads about Joe Aguirre:
Working for Aguirre started by saucycobblers. Contains an interesting discussion by nakymaton about working/hunting on Forest Service land
Aguirre's office, started by Penthesilea: all about stuff in his office, from his jackalope to his class ring!
Aguirre surname, started by opinionista. Need more posts!
Do you think Jack realizes that Aguirre has seen, started by kd5000: about the big-ass binocs and other things. Needs more posts!
Ennis and Aguirre, started by fernly, comparing/contrasting the two characters. Needs more posts!
Aguirre Visit, started by Ellemeno. Very small thread.
You think that Joe Aguirre was gay, bi... started by Artiste.
Role of Observers, Viewers, the long-shot, Aguirre, and Us (!!!) in BBM? started by atz75, and touches on that creepy sensation of being watched!
Why did Aguirre hire Jack a second time? started by Artiste. This one actually talks mostly about Jack.
Aguirre's Exhaust Fan -- by garycottle, from imdb. An exhaustive treatise on the subject.
The Aguirre Character, another imdb thread by Clancypantsnasty.
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