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TOTW 19/07: Why couldn't Jack learn to just be happy with things as they were af

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jstephens9:

--- Quote from: myprivatejack on December 19, 2007, 06:34:52 pm ---Hi¡ First of all,I must introduce myself;I´m a new member and perhaps the only who is not American,but from Barcelona.I hope you accept me¡ :laugh:

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Hey and welcome to BetterMost myprivatejack!!! There are many people who are members here that are not American so you should feel right at home. This is a very accepting place.

Jack

Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: myprivatejack on December 19, 2007, 06:34:52 pm ---Hi¡ First of all,I must introduce myself;I´m a new member and perhaps the only who is not American,but from Barcelona.I hope you accept me¡ :laugh:
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Hi myprivatejack
welcome to BetterMost! We're glad to have you here. We have many members from outside the US and quite a few who speak English only as a second language, so don't worry about it.

We have a thread where new members can introduce themselves and share as much or few as they want. It's here: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,31.0.html
You're invited to introduce yourself there as well, but only if you want, it's voluntarily.

brokeplex:
How difficult would it have been for Jack to live as gay man in that period in small town Texas? Could he have left Lureen? Could he realistically have lived in Texas or moved to Wyoming to be near Ennis. These are the questions that haunt me. I was a young man in Texas in the 1970's, but I moved away from the small town I grew up in to attend college in a bigger city. I discovered gay life there. But I wonder what options were open to a Jack Twist in the 1970's and early 1980's?

Artiste:
Good question! Like life, no one can know the answer?

Relationships are rare as reality is between two individuals as a couple!

Relationships... is not only about sex (even if that mutual sex can help!!), as there is spiritual connexion too that Ennis and Jack became to know with each other being together at times: (in too rare possible times!!

Mutual caring as with them can be helpful, but social non-fears (hopeful for life) and fears (being killed because you are  gay man/men) were too still crystals to both men. .. which both could not disolve and solve. Too scary, unfortunately most times were each of their lives, even together!!

Religious, social, cultural, anti-gay laws, etc., and even persons like their wives as well as potential murderers of gay men, as that and more did not help them free themselves and become a real couple in public nor in private, beyond the Brokeback Mountain (and note that Brokeback was Brokenback); even on Brokeback Mountain as somewhat a heaven as a canopy or a tent, not all their cares were sufficient for each and together, since others like Aguirre looked at them creating a turbulence in their lives even then.

Why couldn't Jack learn to just be happy with things as they were after Brokeback Mountain? Isn't love an advancing thing?? Singularly and as a couple?? Can we wish that Jack had settled down with Ennis, yes we can be wishful but fear of danger was too great for him as well as for Ennis!!
No one can know the answer to a good relationship, at least Ennis and Jack tried their own way, thank goodness!! They were trying in moments d'occassions; yes, as occassional times!! Even among straights couples (married man and woman), that is so too, most often as occassional rare great times??!!

At least, Jack had as Ennis did too, some mutual joys as blessings being with Ennis on earth as a bit of heaven!!

Why couldn't Jack learn to just be happy with things as they were after Brokeback Mountain? We all wonder...
and hope for thruth and life??  Does this make sense?? Maybe?

Hugs!!

Merry, Merry, Merry Christmas  and Gay Holidays to all here on Bettermost and all over the wonderful world, as well as Ennisses and Jacks in gay heaven!!

Scott6373:
As much as people love to almost deify these two men, and hate any insinuation that they are less than the heroes our collective memories recall, the fact is that Jack was a very selfish boy and man.  It effected his family, his relationship with Ennis and ultimately himself.  He couldn't accept the way things were because they were not the the way he wanted them to be.  I personally am of the belief that when he left Ennis that day in May, he left Ennis for good, but we will never know the answer to that one, but if that is the case, then in the end, it was Jack who made the most emotional progress.

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