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The Importance Of Affection
"Joseph Golden":
First we see that in the tent, we see a different scene, Ennis is holding onto Jack, This time it isn't Ennis that's slipping away. Its Jack. Jack cant stand it. Jacks talking about Other people, Ennis knows the chooses his made were wrong, And he fears that one day Jack will just not turn up.
This was my explanation on the "Tent Scene - Where Ennis is hugging Jack.
BTW, I loved the pic.....
Artiste
May I reply as to question that! I think that it is the opposite?? Maybe??
Yeah, Opines are defiantly welcome.
Sandy
First, we have the amazing dozy embrace. What makes this scene for me is the fact that Ennis takes Jack's lapel in his hand and strokes it. He hasn't just grabbed him, or even thrown his arms around him: he is taking and breathing in as much of Jack as he can. This stroking epitomises affection for me. Yes, I know he didn't stroke Jack's skin, but that would take away from the scene. It's cold and he would have to put his cold hands down his shirt (!), or it may have led to sex. By rubbing the nearest part of Jack to his hand, he is showing his contentment.
Secondly, there is the No rein's scene where Jack strokes Ennis ear. Wow! That single touch shows the intimacy and affection that they have! Ennis looks as if he is about to flinch then leans in to enjoy the touch. This is a touch which shows Jack reaching out to comfort Ennis at the nearest point to him, he touches his ear and says, “I hear you (maybe I'm stretching the symbolism too far!) and Ennis is allowing himself to be reassured.
You explained it better than i did. :laugh:
Artiste:
Thanks melb_boy88, thanks Sandy, thanks sfericsf!!!
Be happy to get more comments from you melb and Sandy and sferics, and from others too!!
I appreciate your pic sfericsf and thanks very much!! Hard for me to think since I just got a call that someone's mother passed away! So I see comfort as you can see worth of living in the comfort of that image divided into two parts!! Yes, it is in that bottom part that Ennis puts his arm over Jack!! We all need such caress and comfort!!
May I restate: Which scenes would you have liked more affection or have added?? May I ask you and to all too?
Any you would have added??
Hugs!! May we all humans seek and get comfort gestures from one another: straight, bi-s, gays, others!! And cherish them always!!
"Joseph Golden":
Which scenes would you have liked more affection or have added?? May I ask you and to all too?
Apart from more sex scenes, which i mean this in the most UN dirtiest way.
In the "Second Tent Scene" we seen a moment of love, affection and disire. But most importantly, we see the pain the two men go through just to be able to reach there full desires.
Its a beautiful moment. The movie didn't have enough of them. Throughtout the movie we seen heartache and pain. We seen lives lost and lives unfulfilled.
I think there should have been more acts of affection. I wanted to feel there love and passion a lot more. Thoughout there 16 years of a secret affair all we see of this is at the end.
More, I say. :D
injest:
Yes, I would have liked to see another love scene later in the movie (not even a sex scene necessarily but SOME form of affection)
they rarely even touch each other in the later part of the film!
and I have read all the theories about less is more etc....and that more sex would have taken away from the movie...but I think that is just making lemonade out of lemons! I wanted more love scenes!
Sandy:
I completely agree with the fact that there are not enough love scenes in the latter part of the film. I am not necessarily meaning sex scenes (although, of course, they would be welcome!), simply explicitly showing a little more love.
This is because, at first glance, it seems that their relationship has become more friend-like than lovers, however looking deeper, a long term relationship does grow into an easy comfort and becomes more about making love than furious, insatiable lust. I would therefore have loved to have seen them grow as a couple, i.e. holding hands etc. That being said, we never saw them share a cigarette or drink from the same bottle at the start of the film. That comes later, during the "miss you so much" scene at the lake (or loch as we Scots say!).
I firmly believe that the opposite of love/hate is indifference so their blow up at the end and Jack supporting Ennis shows the undying love and affection that still exists between them.
Lastly, I'm sorry to hear about your friend's loss Artiste. I'm sure I speak for all when I say pass on our condolences.
Sandy
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