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TOTW 01/08: Do you think Jack was murdered or was it an accident?
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Scott on January 09, 2008, 03:15:49 pm ---I never gave that a thought before now. Maybe that would make a good discusion for another thread. "Do you think Ennis would have been capable of violence against gays?"
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That would be a good thread, one you could open now in Open Forum, or perhaps suggest for a future TOTW. I think people would have some interesting and different views on this.
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on January 09, 2008, 03:16:26 pm ---Indeed. I think serious involvement in any of the traditional mainline Protestant churches--not the Fred Phelps fringe but the old mainline denominations--would work against someone's becoming a gay basher. While certain of these denominations are struggling over the full inclusion of gays in the life of the church, I think they all would condemn anti-gay violence. I guess even the Roman Catholic church would be against anti-gay violence, but that's not my tradition, so I don't much pay attention to the Roman church.
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And this would be a great topic for Anything Goes or Safe Haven.
Seriously, I'm not trying to a rigid topic enforcer. I think both those subjects are very interesting and would like to say something about them myself, but am avoiding doing so out of fear that some might object to detouring too far from the subject of Jack's death.
The subject of religion and anti-gay violence is particularly interesting. It's hard to imagine any Christian church condoning it (I specify Christian because I'm less familiar with other faiths). And yet obviously lots of people feel that homosexuality is at odds with Christian beliefs, which probably tacitly encourages some of the violence.
OK, that's all I'll say for now!
:-X
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 09, 2008, 04:24:18 pm ---OK, that's all I'll say for now!
:-X
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You go right ahead and say all you want about anything, Little Darlin'! ;D
Artiste:
Ineedcrayons, I feel that you are not correct in trying to correct me (if I may use that term), while you let others and yourself do so... as just glanced some numerous after my last one.
Anyone can see that murdering gays in that movie is of great importance, like it or not! It's there as a main subject! I do not like it, but it is there as an issue!! Re-see the movie and the book!!
You or another else saying otherwise arewrong, just murder of one is Ok? - not,it is not as far as I am concern, and surely you would not say that!
Besides the subjects of this BMmovie is not only the murders of only one] man... as you or others say!!
You would never say: murdering of a gay man is OK -orof many gay men, that is OK too because they are gay men!!
I show my support for lives to live in peace for all and that to me is the aim of Annie!!
The subject of this thread is murder: Do you think that Jack was murdered or was it an accident? - I stick to my points!!
Hugs!
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Artiste on January 09, 2008, 07:16:50 pm ---The subject of this thread is murder: Do you think that Jack was murdered or was it an accident? - I stick to my points!!
Hugs!
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No, the subject of this thread is 'Do you think Jack was murdered OR was it an accident?' Not 'gay men are murdered and it was based on religious bigotry/anti-gay conspiracy'. Some of us on this thread don't believe a murder took place at all. You tend to go off on tangents, Artiste that derail threads. As the mods suggested, it would be a good idea to open new threads on your tangents - they are interesting - as they take away from this thread.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Artiste on January 09, 2008, 07:16:50 pm ---You or another else saying otherwise arewrong, just murder of one is Ok? - not,it is not as far as I am concern, and surely you would not say that!
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Surely I would not.
--- Quote ---Besides the subjects of this BMmovie is not only the murders of only one] man... as you or others say!!
You would never say: murdering of a gay man is OK -orof many gay men, that is OK too because they are gay men!!
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No.
--- Quote ---The subject of this thread is murder: Do you think that Jack was murdered or was it an accident? - I stick to my points!
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Me too. The subject of the thread is "Do you think Jack was murdered or was it an accident?" Thus, the thread is about murders and accidents. But in general, up to a point, they must connect to Jack.
Artiste, maybe you have seen this poll. If not, please check it out. BetterMost members are currently discussing their views about OT posts. Most seem to feel that moderately OT posts are fine, but there's a limit to how much they want to diverge from the topic. So we have to find that happy medium.
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16136.0.html
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