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TOTW 02/08: Was Lureen pregnant when she met Jack?
Artiste:
Thanks all of you!!
May I say:
Why wally in the valley of despair? - like Dr. King said!! Annie's story to me brings hope... determination for us all to go on top of that mountain like Jack and Ennis for happiness by love for us all, I say! And come back into the valley to make there better and better too, by changing that also... for continued love shared!!
WE can think that
--- Quote ---the... character Lureen was not meant to be portrayed as a Lesbian.
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THat is because Jack and Ennis are the main ones. Lureen is not just secondary, upon re-thought. She is lesbian, she knows that or not, when she is pregnant - may I question ?? !!
I feel strongly that she is lesbian and am happy with her actions, throughout.
Must rush... see your thoughts later all of you!!
HUgs!! May all Lureens realize their dreams, and Jacks too, as well as Ennis'... and others !!
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Artiste on January 21, 2008, 06:00:41 pm ---I feel strongly that she is lesbian and am happy with her actions, throughout.
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Artiste, you have addressed this issue on a number of threads lately. You've also started a thread devoted to discussing this topic.
From now on, I would ask that you and others discuss Lureen's possible pregnancy on this thread, and discuss Lureen's possible lesbianism on the thread that you have started for that purpose.
Thanks!
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 21, 2008, 05:07:44 pm ---Well, this is a debate we've had before and it looks like we're still on opposite sides of it. ;)
I'm sure other gay men have done that. Ennis, for example. But to me, Jack looks pretty lonely on the dance floor. And in the backseat he looks like someone who suddenly realizes he has bitten off more than he can chew.
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I guess we have discussed this, haven't we?
He briefly looks a little surprised ("You are in a hurry!"), but that's not a boy who's bitten off more than he can chew. That's a boy who's surprised he's apparently going to get more than he expected. (It's 1966 and "nice girls don't," after all.) But when he tells Lureen that, fast or slow, he just likes the direction she's goin', that's a young man who's very happy that his gun's goin' a go off. ...
smellykellyjay:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on January 21, 2008, 07:05:12 pm ---He briefly looks a little surprised ("You are in a hurry!"), but that's not a boy who's bitten off more than he can chew. That's a boy who's surprised he's apparently going to get more than he expected. (It's 1966 and "nice girls don't," after all.) But when he tells Lureen that, fast or slow, he just likes the direction she's goin', that's a young man who's very happy that his gun's goin' a go off. ...
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You know what some say. . . it don't matter what they look like, cause when the lights go out, it's either feast or famine, honey.
opinionista:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 21, 2008, 11:57:00 am ---If she WAS already pregnant, it wouldn't have much consequence for the rest of the movie. It would explain their hasty marriage, but that can be attributed to more obvious factors. She was attracted to Jack, she was bold and assertive and went for what she wanted. He was broke and tired of striking out with men, found her appealing in a Platonic way, and was resigned to conforming to cultural expectations of what men were supposed to do.
The only repercussions a possible existing pregnancy creates are: It helps explain why Jack was so amenable to ditching his family of the sweet life. And it explains why L.D. Newsome backed down so quickly over Thanksgiving dinner.
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I think that actually proves the contrary. If Jack wasn't the father and supposing LD Newsome actually knew it (which I doubt), he would feel more powerful to tell Jack to shut up in that scene. He would have plenty of reason to remind Jack he is a nobody in the family, not even Bobby's actual dad.
Also there was no need for Jack not to be Bobby's biological dad in order to be amenable to ditching his family. Many people abandon their kids for a lot of reasons, both women and men. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
For the record, I don't think Lureen was pregnant before meeting Jack. To me that theory makes no sense within the plot.
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