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TOTW 02/08: Was Lureen pregnant when she met Jack?
Artiste:
Thanks huntingbuddy and others!!
You say huntingbuddy: [Now whether Lureen discussed her sex life with mom or not is questionable. I don't believe oral contraceptives came into existence until the early 70's? is that correct? So Mom might have had "the talk" with her, but considering the time period, and if she grew up on a ranch or farm, I highly doubt it. Sex was just not discussed. The only thing we know for sure is she has to have the car home by midnight!/i]
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Huntingbuddy and to all, I am NOT saying that.
Rather, I would think that Lureen's mother knew about her daughter being pregnant by ANOTHER man way before Laureen saw Jack!! Lureen's mother had to see the physical changes changing in Lureen's body!!
Too: It could very well be that Lureen never said anything about her pregnancy with another man before Jack to her mother, but Lureen knew that she was indeed pregnant and had to get quickly a husband! Right? Or maybe?
Awaiting your news and that from all too,
hugs!!
chowhound:
I wrote to Larry McMurtry a couple of months back to ask him about this but so far there's been no reply. If I do get one from him, I'll certainly let people know.
I,like Panthesilea, favour the story line of Jack getting Lureen pregnant on their first encounter. This forces marriage upon them - abortion, presumably, not being an option - and would explain Lureen's father's dislike for Jack and his readiness to get rid of him once the baby has been born. Surprising as it may be in a movie where so much attention has been given to detail, I think the suggested timeline which makes Lureen pregnant before she meets Jack is simply a "goof".
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: chowhound on January 15, 2008, 02:25:29 pm ---I,like Panthesilea, favour the story line of Jack getting Lureen pregnant on their first encounter. This forces marriage upon them - abortion, presumably, not being an option - and would explain Lureen's father's dislike for Jack and his readiness to get rid of him once the baby has been born. Surprising as it may be in a movie where so much attention has been given to detail, I think the suggested timeline which makes Lureen pregnant before she meets Jack is simply a "goof".
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This puts my interpretation of the marriage and pregnancy in a nutshell.
Artiste:
Jeff, may I disagree?? !!
To me, Lureen was pregnant BEFORE she met Jack!! Proofs seems to be there... many!!
What do you, and you all think??
Hugs!!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2008, 03:54:16 pm ---
That rodeo arena sign with a date on it goes by so quickly that I have yet actually to see it when I'm watching the film. Without checking, I won't swear to it, but I think Jack's "eight months old" line is taken from Annie Proulx's text (I admire McMurtry and Ossana for using as much of AP's dialogue as they did)--and the story gives no indication when Jack and Lureen met.
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Hi Jeff!
In the Childress Co. rodeo scene, slow your DVD playback and freeze while Jack is still bucking the bull. You will see the dates listed in Aug 1966 on the signs above the announcers booth.
In the post card scene freeze while Ennis is holding the card, and you will see the post mark as Sept 1967
Jack when meeting Alma remarks that his boy is 8 months old, do the math.
Lureen was pregnant when she was 'in a hurry" with Jack behind the barn in the T-Bird.
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