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TOTW 02/08: Was Lureen pregnant when she met Jack?

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Luvlylittlewing:

--- Quote from: brokebackjack on January 19, 2008, 05:12:33 pm ---I just don't see Lureen being pregnant when she met Jack, if  for no other reason then this: she was competing in a rodeo, where falls and indeed, life threatening accidents occur frequently. If she wass pregnant she would never have entered that competition

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Unless the child was unwanted and she didn't care if she lost it.

Ellemeno:

--- Quote from: littlewing1957 on January 20, 2008, 02:40:15 am ---Unless the child was unwanted and she didn't care if she lost it.

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Right.  When I was younger I knew women who treated their bodies pretty harshly in hopes of dislodging a maybe baby growing inside.

Lureen's nipples don't look pregnant when she takes her bra off. 

I'm also thinking that she was hot for Jack and she knew she didn't need him to be a provider.  She and Daddy were going to be the providers.  She could just have him for his cuteness and sweetness and that would be plenty.

I like this pregnancy question.  None of us know the answer.  But pregnancy or possible pregnancy have shaped the rest of people's lives since time began.

BTW, after someone mentioned several pages back that Brigitte Bardot is a lesbian, I did a search on that.  While I found a lesbian movie scene she was in on YouTube (hubba hubba), I saw no mention of her real life sexual preferences anywhere. 

Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: Sandy on January 19, 2008, 03:49:34 pm ---I still don't think that she was pregnant when she met him-to be honest, that really just comes from my opposition to the notion that, because she's sexually confident, she got pregnant.  This is too much of a cliche for my taste!  
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Good point.


--- Quote ---I may be wrong, but has it been established through time lines etc that the marriage to Jack happened around the same time?  They may well have been married for a good while before the baby came along.  I'd be interested to see if anyone has worked this out.

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Yup, people have worked this out. In fact, the timeline is the only argument (IMO) which speaks pro an already existing pregnancy. Talking about the movie here, since we don't have any clues from Annie's story about the timeline in this regard.

In short: Lureen and Jack met after July, 4th, 1966, because it was after the fireworks scene. Brokeplex says they met in August 1966; there's a sign to be read at the rodeo event when they meet (I haven't looked this up).
Do the math: 9 months pregnancy + Bobby being 8 months old = 17 months.
But from July/August 1966 to September 1967 (=time of the reunion) it's only 14/13 months.

More detailed explanations about the timeline can be found here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,15379.msg311426.html#msg311426

and here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16269.msg316451.html#msg316451


I personally think she was not pregnant when she met Jack. I think she was really smitten by him. That's why she approached him with her matin' call, not because she was pregnant.
I can't see anything hinting towards a pregnancy (apart from the timeline, that is). And I simply think they made a mistake with the timeline.

brokeplex:

--- Quote from: Sandy on January 19, 2008, 02:32:52 pm ---The social censure would have been too much for the Newsomes to handle if Lureen had borne a child out of wedlock.
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I agree. The stigma on a woman raising a child on her own was much milder than on a woman getting pregnant outside of marriage. Back in them days, you weren't even supposed to have sex outside of marriage!

Artiste:
Thanks Ellemeno!

I believe that Brigitte Bardot is lesbian, since I think mentioned that here, and that I had seen that on TV, about her life, either in English, likely in a French documentary film. S.V.P., if you not Brigitte, please forgive me. I knew persons who did communicated with her, since they and many other gays... lived in many apartment buildings she owned, sold and re-owned because they complained to her since she had promised never to sell nor put them out! Maybe they had mentioned to me that she was. Anyway, I feel that Lureen is not Brigitte, but she was known by the others men as many like a sex kitten Brigitte was know to be via her movies; Lureen does act so rapidly having sex with Jack, taking her clothes off and mounting him, etc.; no harm done, I say since I applaud her if that was what she wanted and did!!

I do think that Lureen was at least one month or near so pregnant, and feeling sexy (valid even more for sex as in that state??), and so she rushed Jack for sex and into marriage. As some of you know, I am also trying to prove that Lureen is a lesbian and must therefore find a husband quickly too! See my thread if Lureen is lesbian or bisexual.

There is/are ambivalence, is that the right word about Lureen, her actions, her words, her anxiousness, etc.; may I say, and if she is lesbian, then that says something about her actions!!

No harm done anyone to anyone on Bettermost nor to those in Annie's story or in the MB movie nor to any writers, any others; that is my investigation as possiblities.

Why Lureen have issues?? There are women issues, right to exploit, mentioned in the BM movie??
I need help...

hugs!!

Hugs!!

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