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Sarah Waters: Books & Movies Discussion
Front-Ranger:
You are certainly not a buttinski, Juan! All opinions welcomed!!
Lumière:
--- Quote from: JCinNYC2006 on September 09, 2008, 09:14:21 pm ---Sorry to be a buttinsky, but please let me know how you like Affinity. I am a big fan of Sarah Waters, I loved the book and film of Tipping The Velvet and have Fingersmith on my list of books to read, having seen the miniseries on Logo. Thanks!
Juan
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Hey Juan ~ Good to see you here. :) I second what Amanda said.
--- Quote from: atz75 on September 09, 2008, 10:56:47 pm ---But, Milli, I'm still waiting on my DVD too. I'll be sure to post here as soon as I get it.
This is reminding me of waiting for my BBM DVD to arrive from Amazon when it was first released. I remember that I pre-ordered it, and then I ended up waiting about a week or so after the release date to actually receive my copy. It was very frustrating at the time.
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Amanda ~
I ordered the dvd from CDUniverse (after the release date) because Amazon had posted a note that said the dvd "Ships in 8 to 11 days" (or something to that effect). CDUniverse said it shipped in a day or two (and I have never had any issues with them before) ...so I went with them. I shoulda stuck with Amazon, lol.
Brown Eyes:
Hi Milli!
I went home for lunch today and discovered my package from Amazon had been delivered this morning! Yeehaw!
That really was pretty fast for Amazon since I only ordered the DVDs late last week.
So, now I have my copy of Affinity and also of I'm Not There.
I'm excited.
8)
Lumière:
Excellent news, Amanda. ;)
Did you see I'm Not There in theatres? (I never got the chance..)
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Lucise on September 10, 2008, 06:04:32 pm ---Excellent news, Amanda. ;)
Did you see I'm Not There in theatres? (I never got the chance..)
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Heya,
Nope, I've never seen I'm Not There before (and I still haven't watched it yet). One of the main reasons I got it is to see if I think it might be a movie my Dad might like (planning gift ideas for down the road...) because he's a major Bob Dylan fan.
I have, now at this point seen Affinity though! I just finished watching it.
My advice to Lee now that I've seen it is... I definitely recommend finishing reading Tipping the Velvet (and/ or watching the DVD of Tipping the Velvet) before you watch Affinity. Tipping the Velvet is definitely Waters' most promient story and I think it's the best story to start with. I think you'll probably find Affinity really interesting and thought provoking, but it has a very different spin to it and different tone/ emphasis in general compared to Tipping the Velvet.
First Review, with some spoilers, but not really too many. Mostly overall description... ***
Following on my recommendation to Lee above... essentially, in a nut shell, Tipping the Velvet is a much happier story.
Wow is Affinity intense! It's a beautiful production. The costumes, sets, etc. are really lovely and interesting and the actors are very good. It's nice that it's simply one movie and not chopped into different episodes. But, man, is it depressing and almost brutal. It's a very thoughtful, interesting story (as we know from the book). But, at this stage I'd forgotten how different the overall direction of Affinity is from something like Tipping the Velvet. If someone is looking for a positive story about lesbian relationships and the potential for solid and romantic lesbian relationships, then Tipping the Velvet is the story/ DVD to turn to for sure. Affinity goes way in the other direction. But, it's a very good film.
One of the good things about Waters as a storyteller, I think, is her capacity for the "surprise twist"... best illustrated in Fingersmith IMHO, but also done very well in Affinity. In Tipping the Velvet Waters is good about introducing both positive and negative characters, situations and scenarios with regards to lesbian relationships, identity and lesbian society. And, Affinity is the same way with a much bleaker overall outlook and heavier emphasis on the negative. The protagonist is such an earnest, likeable character that your heart just bleeds for her and the circumstances she endures. So, the protagonist is the primary "positive" element (as far as lesbian identification goes) while the plot and characters that swirl around her are so difficult.
The whole subject of Spiritualism in Victorian society is interesting enough. It seems like such a mysterious aspect of Victorian society and it's really amazing to realize how popular amd prevalent it was.
I'll hold off on saying much more until other folks have watched it.
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