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Was Lureen a lesbian or bi, maybe?
Artiste:
Thanks Dal, thanks atz75!!
I like your comments... both of you.
It is obvious that Lureen is a complexe person, like we all are, if I may say! I think that there are at least four out of five different and yet maybe related ways to consider her sexual orientation: heterosexual, bisexual, lesbian, other, or combination.
I do not think that Lureen is just heterosexual, not at all!! For many reasons. It depends how to light her, how the light is placed upon her, and how she does those lights, plus how we, as spectators, place our thought light(s).
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What do you mean Dal? Please explain.
Must rush,
hugs!
Sandy:
--- Quote from: atz75 on January 20, 2008, 08:43:57 pm ---She's so self-assured, especially in the scenes where we observer her as a young, single woman.. that if she was a lesbian... she would not be pursuing Jack, she would be pursuing women.
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My point exactly. I know others will say that lesbians would have been just as affected by the general homophobia during that era. But my point is that there was no indication of attraction to women on Lureen's part, and had there been so, I think it likely that Ms Proulx would have advised us in her usual subtle manner. Furthermore, if that was the case, I think Ang Lee would have also brought our attention to it.
So,
--- Quote from: Artiste on January 19, 2008, 03:27:05 pm ---Sandy, may I say that by your comment, in a way or more says, that Lureen is a lesbian...
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No, if my post gave you that idea, then I must have worded it incorrectly. I have no doubt in my mind that Lureen was heterosexual and madly in love with her husband.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: atz75 on January 20, 2008, 08:43:57 pm ---The interaction between Lureen and LaShawn is certainly interesting in the film. No question. But, I don't get the sense that Lureen was developing a crush on LaShawn... I get the sense that she was barely tolerating her. If anything, there may have been a moment when they slightly bonded over the idea that both of their husbands were neglecting them.
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I think so, too. I'm pretty sure the sorority comment was intended as a putdown. I read somewhere, a long time ago, that Lureen's sorority was considered to have a higher social standing than LaShawn's.
Artiste:
Thanks Sandy!
I doubt that your post did express to me that you think that Lureen is a Lesbian. You may have said something that made me think that Lureen is lesbian. There is a difference there. Let me re-read your post. Here is your post to quote it:
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I think that if Lureen wanted a female lover, she would have taken one as easily as put sugar in her tea. She had a husband, a son and a job and if there was anything else she wanted, she would have made damn sure she got it. I see nothing in her to indicate that she was attracted to females, but I base my opinion on the fact that, had she been so, she would not have let it lie.
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Sandy and to all: may I make a brief comment:
Sandy, you say that if Lureen wanted a female lover, she would have taken one as easily as put sugar in her tea. And to that may I say yes and/or no. It could be that Lureen then considered herself lesbian or bisexual, and so went after Jack!! Certainly after Jack, if she considers herself bisexual, right?
If Lureen considers herself lesbian, she could have her female lover in college or had experiemented or wanted to do so with another female - as that is a possibility, right?- in college! Even then and of after college, right after college I figure... still Lureen could have went after Jack, because she had no choice because of society she was raised in and she wants to come (and she does) back to her place as her work is this family (her father, her parents' business), and don't forget that I think she was already one month or so pregnant with someone else (not with Jack)!!
I must go take away snow and ice from mother's car and, bring her to shop, and I await your answers and
comments too from all others,
thanks... hugs!! May all females be safe and get their deisres in this wonderful World!!
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Artiste on January 21, 2008, 11:58:43 am ---
Lureen could have went after Jack, because she had no choice because of society she was raised in and she wants to come (and she does) back to her place as her work is this family (her father, her parents' business), and don't forget that I think she was already one month or so pregnant with someone else (not with Jack)!!
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I think Lureen pursues Jack purely out of her own desire. It fact, I think dating Jack was an act of rebellion on Lureen's part from the very beginning. She's choosing to date and marry a man, who she probably knew from the beginning would not be the type of guy that LD would approve. I really don't get the sense that anyone if forcing Lureen to do anything here. We see her reject the advances of at least a couple guys in the bar as she continues to watch Jack and then finally approach Jack. This is all her choice. Also, with her comment about her curfew in the back of the car with Jack, she's making it pretty clear that she's doing something rather rebellious.
I'm going to say again, that your idea that she was pregnant with another man's baby and also pursuing Jack are two bits of strong evidence that Lureen was not a lesbian, but was heterosexual (or at a stretch bisexual... but we don't have any evidence of this).
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on January 21, 2008, 11:42:59 am ---I think so, too. I'm pretty sure the sorority comment was intended as a putdown. I read somewhere, a long time ago, that Lureen's sorority was considered to have a higher social standing than LaShawn's.
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Heya Jeff,
I remember discussions about this too. And, I agree that the sorority comment is meant to be a slight to LaShawn. And, in a way it's also a subtle dig at Jack. Jack's clearly the only one among this pair of couples who did not go to college.
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