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Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
David In Indy:
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jstephens9:
I thought driving home from work today about the finality of Heath's death. In Brokeback, Jack's death was final, but not in the same way. I can't hardly describe how I feel each time I see the movie and Ennis gets the postcard back with "Deceased" on it. However, in some ways, it never seemed like it had to be final. I always thought well maybe Jack did not really die. Maybe he is actually out there somewhere. I always thought I could write another chapter where Jack was still alive. There was always a chance. However, with Heath's death there is no chance, there is no possibility, it is final. Who knew whether or not there could be a sequel where Jack and Ennis did have that ranch. Now it can never be for sure. There's no question about it. It is over. Heath is gone and with him he took Ennis. Jack was gone at the end of Brokeback, but Jake lives on thankfully. In my mind, Brokeback has come to a final end. And I just don't know exactly what to do or how to handle that.
I keep reading how much Heath was affected by playing the Joker. I have read a whole lot about how he put himself into the character of Ennis. It seems that Heath loved Ennis, but hated the Joker with the same intensity. The Joker's character was so opposite of Heath's true character that I feel he truly had a hard time handling it. I saw something on TV where Heath was talking about what a truly despicable character the Joker was.
BelAir:
--- Quote from: Kelda on January 23, 2008, 03:34:43 pm ---I know what you mean Cameron - I have the same feeling - it was the same with the Tsunami - I was just glues to the tv - even though I didn't want to be. The radio station I listen to in the morning - Chris Moyles on BBC Radio 1 (I believe its on a pay per hear radio channel in the USA) was talking about it - now normally Chris is a joker but he was quite sad this morning and was saying how he saw the news but that he couldn't tuen it off. He was saying that they said ' they're just bringing the body out' and he was like I don't want to see this - yet he didn't switch over.
I've just been looking up stuff as much as I can today chekcing the news every 10mins for any updates....
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I got a conversation on a station I don't usually have programmed... it was two a guys and a girl. Having a nice, very valid, appropriate conversation about Heath. No speculation, just comments about shock and sadness, kind of like on here. It was nice.
BelAir:
--- Quote from: Scott on January 23, 2008, 03:48:28 pm ---I'm sure the NYPD made sure to make the proper notifications before this got released to the press. That's pretty standard procedure.
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is it? I wasn't sure 30 minutes would be enough time...
BelAir:
--- Quote from: jstephens9 on January 23, 2008, 05:58:47 pm ---I thought driving home from work today about the finality of Heath's death. In Brokeback, Jack's death was final, but not in the same way. I can't hardly describe how I feel each time I see the movie and Ennis gets the postcard back with "Deceased" on it. However, in some ways, it never seemed like it had to be final. I always thought well maybe Jack did not really die. Maybe he is actually out there somewhere. I always thought I could write another chapter where Jack was still alive. There was always a chance. However, with Heath's death there is no chance, there is no possibility, it is final. Who knew whether or not there could be a sequel where Jack and Ennis did have that ranch. Now it can never be for sure. There's no question about it. It is over. Heath is gone and with him he took Ennis. Jack was gone at the end of Brokeback, but Jake lives on thankfully. In my mind, Brokeback has come to a final end. And I just don't know exactly what to do or how to handle that.
I keep reading how much Heath was affected by playing the Joker. I have read a whole lot about how he put himself into the character of Ennis. It seems that Heath loved Ennis, but hated the Joker with the same intensity. The Joker's character was so opposite of Heath's true character that I feel he truly had a hard time handling it. I saw something on TV where Heath was talking about what a truly despicable character the Joker was.
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In a way Jack, I respectfully disagree...
Heath is only "gone" if we let him be gone. There is no reason he can't live on through our hearts/spirits/inspiration, just like Jack and Ennis, if you will. It is a chore sometimes, I think, to free our minds from perceiving 'life' as the physical being. There is much, much to be sad about... but he is only as 'gone' as we let him be.
:-\
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