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Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
opinionista:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 24, 2008, 11:32:48 am ---I'm not upset or offended, Jeff, and I'm very sorry about your friend. But I'll have to say I don't agree.
I just don't think the forensic experts or whoever does those tests and/or announces the results to the public would take the risk involved in creating a fake report. With all the press attention to this, the truth probably would come out eventually, and their jobs and reputations are at stake. Even if they cared about protecting Heath's family, I just don't think they'd go that far out on a limb to do it. Besides, I imagine Heath probably HAS used drugs (even heroin, if you believe those ubiquitous mysterious "sources"), so although none of us want to think drugs were involved in his death it wouldn't be a huge shock or blow to his reputation if they were.
If ... I don't know ... George W. Bush were found dead (god forbid -- seriously) and they discovered evidence of drugs, THEN I'd think they might attempt a coverup. But for Heath Ledger? No way.
Course, I believe Lureen, too. ;)
True. But if they'd cleaned off the $20 bill, they would have unrolled it.
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Obviously I am no expert but Heath's case it really sounds like an intoxication from prescription medication. This is regardless of Heath alleged illegal drug abuse. I don't think he was an actual addict but I wouldn't be surprised if he snorted coke from time to time. That does not make him an addict or a bad person, just human.
Anyway, Heath was using dangerous prescribed drugs that if misused could be lethal. According to wikipedia, Ambien can be highly dangerous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolpidem
We need to wait for the coroner's report but it seems like illegal drugs played no role here. Then again, who knows. Anyway, Heath was entitled to have a private life.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on January 24, 2008, 11:54:38 am ---It's not impossible, but I doubt that Intrepid Reporter Ineedcrayons ;) could just walk in off the street and be granted immediate access to the files.
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Based on my intrepid reporting experience ;) , I'm pretty sure I could. And if not, I'd have a Freedom of Information Act request filed within the hour.
So they could either hand the files over right away, or wait and hand them over after I and the 8,000 other journalists covering the story had written/broadcast our headlines about the police refusal to show the files, suggesting a possible coverup. They know that, so I doubt they'd try to stall.
--- Quote ---Illegal substances or not, my opinion of Heath does not change, nor my sadness at his death.
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Nor mine, not in the least (I speak as someone who's not a stranger to illegal substances). But I'll be glad if they weren't, just for the sake of protecting him from the conservative radio talk-show hosts, etc.
Penthesilea:
--- Quote ---From Jeff:
Illegal substances or not, my opinion of Heath does not change, nor my sadness at his death.
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--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 24, 2008, 12:04:19 pm ---Nor mine, not in the least (I speak as someone who's not a stranger to illegal substances). But I'll be glad if they weren't, just for the sake of protecting him from the conservative radio talk-show hosts, etc.
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Exactly. Additionally, for his own sake. Taking the one or other illegal drug for fun is one thing (I think many of us have done that), but I would be even more sad for him if he indeed had slipped too deep into it.
I wouldn't think any less of him, I just hope he wasn't so down the last months as some gossips say.
Kd5000:
People Magazine is saying he was very edgy and unhappy over the Christmas holidays in Australia. He really missed his daughter and his filming schedule was making it even worse. The article said he had prescriptions that were prescribed in Europe and USA. If your seeing two different doctors who aren't aware of what prescriptions you are already on, it makes for a very dangerous situation. I mean, they always ask "are you taking any other medications," but one can say otherwise.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 24, 2008, 12:04:19 pm ---Based on my intrepid reporting experience ;) , I'm pretty sure I could. And if not, I'd have a Freedom of Information Act request filed within the hour.
So they could either hand the files over right away, or wait and hand them over after I and the 8,000 other journalists covering the story had written/broadcast our headlines about the police refusal to show the files, suggesting a possible coverup. They know that, so I doubt they'd try to stall.
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You seem to have greater faith in government bureaucrats than I do. ;D
It all depends ... on lots of things. Like who would be willing or wanting to cover something up to protect the family's privacy. The government might be quite willing to sit on the records until the law took its course and required that they be handed over, in hopes you'd get bored or tired and move on. I just don't see some bored civil servant counter clerk, whose vested interest is covering his ass with his supervisors, not serving the public, handing records like these over to you just because you tell him--or her--you have a right to see public records--which you do. I've dealt with people like that in a former job.
But let be, let be. ...
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