Brokeback Mountain: Our Community's Common Bond > Heath Ledger Remembrance Forum
Jake
Mikaela:
--- Quote from: Kelda on January 27, 2008, 08:43:29 am ---I'm not saying this in any way lessens how jake is feeling, but we all know that the time they spent together must have effected the strength of their relationship, and since they hadn't been workign together recently - were they still as close?
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In addition to what has already been said, especially by Barb, concerning bonds remaining strong over distance and time... which I agree with whole-heartedly; I'm also thinking the long periods of away-time is the common denominator for everyone living a life like Jake's and Heath's. Travelling to far-away places, staying for weeks and months, intensely working and immersing themselves in new projects - then travelling around to shows and premieres and doing PR. It hardly makes for regularly scheduled meet-ups with friends, so I would guess they've taught themselves to keep in contact, or to keep the connection and friendship, despite that. And to meet whenever there's a possibility.
I must admit that I've been wondering and worrying whether Jake (and others) may be affected in their grief by regret if they happened to not be very much in contact with Heath the last months/last year. There's no denying Heath aged quite a bit over the last year, judging from photos, and in recent images he often looked exhausted and drawn and as if he wasn't looking properly after himself. Also these reports (which seem credible) of prescription sleeping pills and other medication - as well as the break-up with Michelle whcih must have been draining on both - Sigh. All of it indicates Heath had a tough time. I'm thinking his friends might easily think back on that and whether they could have been there more. (And that's not me hinting at suicide or deliberate overdoses, because I don't believe any such thing for a second.)
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I think the fact that Heath was about Jake's age might have worsened the blow. Young people aren't used to death. The general idea is that it is something that happens to old people or to people much older than you.
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Yes - they were still living their time in life when they owned the world and nothing seemed (really) wrong.... When it came to the two of them, I guess we all were. :-\
belbbmfan:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on January 27, 2008, 12:48:16 pm ---There's no denying Heath aged quite a bit over the last year, judging from photos, and in recent images he often looked exhausted and drawn and as if he wasn't looking properly after himself. Also these reports (which seem credible) of prescription sleeping pills and other medication - as well as the break-up with Michelle whcih must have been draining on both - Sigh. All of it indicates Heath had a tough time. I'm thinking his friends might easily think back on that and whether they could have been there more. (And that's not me hinting at suicide or deliberate overdoses, because I don't believe any such thing for a second.)
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I have been thinking about this a lot myself. :(
--- Quote from: Mikaela on January 27, 2008, 12:48:16 pm ---Yes - they were still living their time in life when they owned the world and nothing seemed (really) wrong..
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:'(
*sigh*
Kelda:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on January 27, 2008, 12:48:16 pm ---In addition to what has already been said, especially by Barb, concerning bonds remaining strong over distance and time... which I agree with whole-heartedly; I'm also thinking the long periods of away-time is the common denominator for everyone living a life like Jake's and Heath's. Travelling to far-away places, staying for weeks and months, intensely working and immersing themselves in new projects - then travelling around to shows and premieres and doing PR. It hardly makes for regularly scheduled meet-ups with friends, so I would guess they've taught themselves to keep in contact, or to keep the connection and friendship, despite that. And to meet whenever there's a possibility.
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Mikela I hadn't thought of it like that. Thank-you.
xx
souxi:
--- Quote from: Kelda on January 27, 2008, 01:29:21 pm ---Mikela I hadn't thought of it like that. Thank-you.
xx
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Yep I agree. With their work schedules I doubt they got to see each other as often as they would have liked, so I,d imagine they kept in touch regularly by phone/email etc. I wonder who the poor sod was who got to tell Jake the bad news? I wouldn,t wish that on anyone. Poor poor Jake. Don,t you just want to hug him? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Snavel del Snork Snater Snuit on January 27, 2008, 10:37:28 am ---
I don't get your point. Before I was 20 I had lost many people, counting both my grandpas and grandmas. Before I was 20 I had been to more funerals than weddings. I think I'm not the only one. I don't think losing somebody period is something new for Jake. Losing somebody that young and somebody that close to him, yes, that must be new for him.
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Me, too. But Jake may not be in the same boat as we. I know plenty of friends and people around me who haven't ever lost anyone. Their grandparents are still alive, etc. A co-worker's husband recently dropped dead suddenly of an unexpected heart attack and my other co-workers around me were at a loss as to what to do for her or what the timeline of things were. nutmeg might be on to something, but we just don't know.
I'd like to think of Jake and Heath as long-distance friends. Not the close kind you talk to every day or hang out with all the time, but the type that after there has been a long separation, you're able to pick up with again as if there was no time missing at all. And I'm with Lauragigs, their scenes in BBM were made with a whole bunch of people standing just out of camera view. In their own words, in such tender scenes as the tent 1 and 2, there was joking and possibly a few slugs of liquor before the scenes were shot. I'm sure even the reunion scene was filmed with a sense of amusement between them seeing as how Jake later liked to tease that Heath almost broke his nose doing it. I'm not going to look for anything more than that. They were simply actors on a job that became closer than normal due to their scenes together similar to any leading lady who gets along well with her leading man in a love-story movie. In Heath's case, he got the best of both worlds, friendship with his leading man love interest and a real-world love affair with his leading lady.
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