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Brown Eyes:
It's just interesting and disheartening to see how long this particular question/discussion/debate/frustration is dragging on. This is such a preoccupation on the Jake-side of the Brokie fan base now (I mean just look at how many Jake-related threads on this site alone have been taken over by this issue... and even HHH was briefly dealing with this "hot topic" too). I really, truly do hope that it doesn't impact the Brokie community negatively in the long term. Clearly both Heath and Jake fans are really important components of these Brokie communities, so it would be so nice if some peace could be found over this.
But, it's the question of not knowing that I think is causing the main frustration and is the spur to the long, drawn-out nature of these discussions.
I do agree that Jake has made a blunder here and I'm more baffled by it than disappointed. And, it doesn't mean that I don't like Jake. Quite the contrary... if I didn't care about him than I wouldn't be worrying about this question at all.
Artiste:
Ce samedi, je t'aime Jake G.!
Artiste:
This Saturday, I love you Jake G.!
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: atz75 on April 12, 2008, 11:31:43 am ---It's just interesting and disheartening to see how long this particular question/discussion/debate/frustration is dragging on. This is such a preoccupation on the Jake-side of the Brokie fan base now (I mean just look at how many Jake-related threads on this site alone have been taken over by this issue... and even HHH was briefly dealing with this "hot topic" too). I really, truly do hope that it doesn't impact the Brokie community negatively in the long term. Clearly both Heath and Jake fans are really important components of these Brokie communities, so it would be so nice if some peace could be found over this.
But, it's the question of not knowing that I think is causing the main frustration and is the spur to the long, drawn-out nature of these discussions.
I do agree that Jake has made a blunder here and I'm more baffled by it than disappointed. And, it doesn't mean that I don't like Jake. Quite the contrary... if I didn't care about him than I wouldn't be worrying about this question at all.
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Well, see this is the problem and why this is still under discussion. Jake blundered? How? For all we know - and we don't know - Jake may have expressed his grief quite openly and clearly to Heath's family and Michelle, but privately. No blunder and perfectly normal and perfectly acceptable.
What seems to be at issue is how he dealt with the public - the fans. Here I think we're presumptuous to judge him on what he did or didn't do. It was unusual for him not to make a public statement, but to expect a "tribute" is a bit much. The choice of his actions was entirely his and I don't consider his not making a public gesture a "mistake" or a "blunder". What he did was quite intentional and for his own reasons which I will not deem to judge. People deal with grief in different ways and Jake has it harder than most considering he is an actor. So whatever he did was right for him and fans need to be more accepting of this. It wasn't their friend who died.
oilgun:
--- Quote from: yb on April 12, 2008, 10:52:38 am ---Well, I look at it a little differently. Those who are his fans do not turn against him just because of Heath, there are other incidents prior to this that affected their feelings of Jake, Heath's death is only an additional factor; but even so, I don't think there are too many of them.
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That is certainly the case with me. I was never a hardcore Jake fan. I loved DONNY DARKO almost DESPITE Jake, his eyes kind of creeped me out at the time. I only became a fan after BbM. His Jack made me want to see his other films, which I did and mostly enjoyed them. I went to see JARHEAD and ZODIAC partly because he was in it and thought he was good in them. It was different with Heath, I became an instant convert after seeing his Sonny in MONSTER'S BALL, Ennis just sealed the deal.
Also, Jake was already on shaky grounds with me since his unfortunate performance on SNL, which I thought undid any good that BbM may had done in breaking down gay stereotypes. That was a BIG disappointment. So yes, his silence is just another incident and it's serious enough to sever any remaining allegiance I may have had.
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