Brokeback Mountain: Our Community's Common Bond > Heath Ledger Remembrance Forum
OSCAR TRIBUTE????
nakymaton:
I can think of one subtle but appropriate thing that they could do: use The Wings as music during the In Memorium segment.
I would be very surprised if Heath won posthumously for playing The Joker, unfortunately. Only one person won an Oscar after his death. (And it wasn't James Dean, who was nominated twice after his death.) And on top of that, there's the genre picture issue. Actors have been nominated from genre pictures, but not many have won. And from a superhero movie? The Academy would have to get past a number of different biases to give Heath the award.
yb:
But with all those drug speculation surrounding Heath, do you think Oscar will honour Heath? I don't know how Oscar works, but I'm afraid this may affect Oscar's plan on this..
But Sheriff is right, I don't care much for Oscar any more after Heath lost his Best Actor.
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: yb on February 04, 2008, 09:58:57 pm ---But with all those drug speculation surrounding Heath, do you think Oscar will honour Heath? I don't know how Oscar works, but I'm afraid this may affect Oscar's plan on this..
But Sheriff is right, I don't care much for Oscar any more after Heath lost his Best Actor.
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right, after the overt slight two years ago, the oscars are quite reduced in import.
nonetheless, the hollywood group would never overlook a big name for specualation or factual drug use. they never snubbed Belushi, Monroe, etc. Nor will they for Heath.
but, remember...the "academy" is only an elite club of a few of the industry. They try not to play favorites and manage their PR like the queen does her family's. So, there is almost no quesiton Heath will be featured within the segment of those who died in the last year, but don't get your hopes up that he will have a great big huge memorial that outshines the others.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Sheriff Roland on February 04, 2008, 09:26:33 pm ---
Not that the oscars mean anything to me, anymore.
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Heya Sheriff!
I absolutely agree with this sentiment. 100%. This is still me on the subject of BBM and the Oscars ---->
On one hand it would be nice if the Oscars awarded Heath something, posthumously. But, at this point, I agree that the Oscars have lost credibility (with me at least). And this goes beyond Brokeback... with the snub of BBM I've learned a lot about the Oscars' dubious track-record of snubbing first class films and people quite frequently.
So, after looking at this thread, I performed my little ritual when I find myself getting all upset about the Oscars. I went to imdb and did some rather cursory research on other major cinematic figures and films that have been snubbed by Oscar. Heath and Brokeback are in really good company (and that said, the total number of other non-Oscar wins for BBM is still jaw-droppingly impressive when you compare it to many historic films).
The best example of a ridiculous Oscar snub was Citizen Kane, which of course many people believe is the best film ever made. So, in this case, history has really proven Oscar wrong. In 1942 it was nominated for 9 Oscars. It only won one for Best Screenplay. It lost in the categories of Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Art Direction, Best Cinematography, Best Film Editing, Best Music/Score, Best Sound, and Best Director. The fact that it lost in the categories of cinematography and director is really, really laughable... since in almost all standard histories of film, Kane is cited as one of the best/ most innovative examples of both of those categories.
Here are several, somewhat random examples of other towering figures in film history snubbed by Oscar:
Alfred Hitchcock never won an Oscar.
Cary Grant never won an Oscar.
Lauren Bacall still has never won an Oscar.
I think these 4 examples are shocking. They've all been nominated, but none of these have won. These examples are reassuring to me because they prove without any doubt that a person or film can have a major, major impact of cinematic history without Oscars' recognition. And, in some sense, these snubs make Brokeback's 3 wins look very good.
I don't mean to be totally and completely negative about the Oscars. Sometimes they do get it right or make good gestures of recognition. But, the number of serious "misses" in Oscars' history really makes me wonder about the clout that this one, singular award ceremony holds.
here's a footnote about Citizen Kane's one Best Screenplay Oscar. This is a quotation from imdb
--- Quote ---Best Writing, Original Screenplay
Herman J. Mankiewicz
Orson Welles
On Friday, July 19th, 2003, Orson Welles' Oscar statuette went on sale at an auction at Christie's, New York, but was voluntarily withdrawn so the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences could buy it back for just 1 dollar. The statuette, included in a large selection of Welles-related material, was going to be sold by Beatrice Welles, the youngest of the filmmaker's three daughters and the sole heir of his estate and was expected to sell at over 300,000 dollars.
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Sandy:
There's an element of me that doesn't want him to be recognised by the Oscars now. I wanted them to recognise him the first time round and not act sad and guilty that he has passed away. And if they have a problem with the allegations of drug taking, well they really can stick it. They of all should understand how the media twists things.
But I know I'm cutting my nose off to spite my face and the Academy and the rest of the world should be recognising his brilliance.
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