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Heath Ledger's Accidental Overdose - Discussion Thread (Was: Breaking News)
opinionista:
--- Quote from: Lynne on February 07, 2008, 02:00:42 pm ---This is the first time I've ventured in to the Heath Grieving forum and I don't really feel ready to be here now, so I'm about to leave again. I had an idea I shared via PM with Pete last night and maybe I'm grasping at straws, but I wonder if Heath could have had an undiagnosed condition like sleep apnea?
My logic is that he reportedly was having problems sleeping. When you have sleep apnea, even if you do sleep, you never feel rested because you wake up throughout the night often without realizing it. I don't believe sleep apnea can be diagnosed without spending the night in a sleep clinic nor identified via autopsy.
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What I heard was that Heath suffered with chronic insomnia not sleep apnea. I think it is a different thing, but like I said I'm no doctor so if anyone has better information please post it.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: opinionista on February 07, 2008, 02:15:30 pm ---What I heard was that Heath suffered with chronic insomnia not sleep apnea. I think it is a different thing, but like I said I'm no doctor so if anyone has better information please post it.
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Insomnia is where you can't sleep. Sleep apnea is where you stop breathing while you are asleep.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2008, 02:32:07 pm ---Sleep apnea is where you stop breathing while you are asleep.
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And while sleep apnea does interfere with sound sleep, if you have it you don't realize that. You think you're sleeping OK, and just can't figure out why you're so tired in the daytime, as Lynne said. So a person with sleep apnea would be unlikely to reach for sleeping pills.
Lynne:
I understand the difference between insomnia and sleep apnea. I'm just saying that the apnea could have been present unknowingly and been a contributing factor. Wild speculation and grasping at straws as I said before...
RossInIllinois:
--- Quote from: myprivatejack on February 07, 2008, 01:42:21 pm ---Yes,yes,I understood what the phrase means by the meaning of the words... :) but what I don't understand is that Heath could take more pills than advisable or prescribed by his own initiative,it was not his style...I don't know if this makes sense,sorry.But for me there's only two explanations:or he did it intentionally-I´m sorry,but for me it doesn't make him a worse person...-or the progressive accumulation of substances in his organism was what became "a clockwork bomb" in it...Don't hate me,please,but it's what I feel.
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Its really quite simple. Heath had a drug abuse problem. It matters not if the drugs are illeagle or perscriptions from many Dr's. An "accidental" over dose is just a nicer kinder way of putting it across to the public. I'm sure many of you have multiple bottles of pills in your home right? Would you knowingly take more than is perscribed on the bottles or do so without consulting your Dr. first? You see many drug abusers will grab what ever they have at hand to try to get high no matter if its perscriptions or illegal drugs, glue whatever. Was he intending to kill himself most likely not, was he trying to get high? probably so, Was the death "accidental" as Heaths father states most likely yes. did they tell the whole truth most likely no because he knew what he was doing when he took the pills. So the term "accidental" is a big stretch for me in this case. I'm sure this is why Michelle Williams left him, she knew he had a drug/substance problem and didn't want the baby around or getting into all of his crap.
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