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"Jacks Wishes" a Line in the movie that really makes me wonder??

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Sandy:

--- Quote from: atz75 on February 19, 2008, 02:33:15 pm ---Lureen, I feel, is extremely kind to Ennis and it's thanks to her encouragement that Ennis proceeds to go to Lightning Flat and thus find the shirts, etc.  The nicest thing Lureen does on the phone is to let Ennis know that Jack said Brokeback was his favorite place.  She didn't need to say that (especially given the idea that she's just now having a realization about who exactly Ennis is), but she does.  And, I think it shows a kind side to her.

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Oh, absolutely! And she definitely loved Jack enough to help Ennis out in his grief.  But I can't help but feel, and this is motivated by the 'ashes' sentence only, that she did the right thing as opposed to what she actually wanted to do. 

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Sandy on February 19, 2008, 02:42:50 pm ---Oh, absolutely! And she definitely loved Jack enough to help Ennis out in his grief.  But I can't help but feel, and this is motivated by the 'ashes' sentence only, that she did the right thing as opposed to what she actually wanted to do. 
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I agree with this. She did the right thing, but there's no reason in the world to expect her to want to enable the person her husband has been in love with, as she has just learned, throughout her entire marriage. She'd have to be superhumanly nice to want to help his lover out. Instead, she's inadvertently nice, or offhandedly nice, or just normal sympathetically nice.

I don't think she's being snide. I think in saying "bout the ashes I mean" she's making, perhaps unwittingly, a distinction between his wishes regarding the ashes and his wishes regarding how he'd have liked to live his life.

Artiste:
May I but in?

I think that the mention of ashes were added, because Lureen is hiding Jack and about Jack!

Maybe?

Hugs!!

Sandy:

--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on February 19, 2008, 02:55:16 pm ---I think in saying "bout the ashes I mean" she's making, perhaps unwittingly, a distinction between his wishes regarding the ashes and his wishes regarding how he'd have liked to live his life.

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I was really struggling with this thread and (whether Lureen was snide or the statement was said unwittingly) you have said what I was trying to!  She did make a definite distinction, whatever the motive (or lack of).

RossInIllinois:

--- Quote from: Sandy on February 19, 2008, 03:56:12 pm ---I was really struggling with this thread and (whether Lureen was snide or the statement was said unwittingly) you have said what I was trying to!  She did make a definite distinction, whatever the motive (or lack of).

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Thats exactly what I meant. Its the snide way she puts it almost as if Jack left something to him in a will or something and she is making sure to Ennis all she is giving up is the Twist portion of his ashes.  You certainly get the idea she knows she is talking to "the other Woman" here. I also feel the writers missed an opportunity here to have 16 Y/O Bobby Twist answer the phone and hand it off to his Mother, The actor could have been chosen to look like a carbon copy of Jack with Jack mannerisms,  that would have been a bit chilling. Just picture Ennis in the phone booth dialing we then cut to the Twist phone ringing a hand grabs the phone then we cut to the 16 year old bobby looking just like Jack in a black hat saying Hello? then passing the phone to the nearby Laureen!

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