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As Easter nears, no Easter in Annie's story or the BM movie?? But??
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on March 24, 2008, 12:10:58 pm ---Unfortunately, I had a typo when I posted this quote. So, here it is again corrected:
"He [Ennis] was still working there in September when Alma Jr., as he called his daughter, was born and their bedroom was full of the smell of old blood and milk and baby shit, and the sounds were of squalling and sucking and Alma's sleepy groans, all reassuring of fecundity and life's continuance to one who worked with livestock."
This makes it more clear that it was Ennis who works with livestock, and that he considered his wife and children to be like livestock.
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really, I never thought of that passage in that light! I interpreted that to mean that he was comfortable with the smells and activities of birth, having worked around livestock.
Front-Ranger:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on March 24, 2008, 10:27:05 pm ---really, I never thought of that passage in that light! I interpreted that to mean that he was comfortable with the smells and activities of birth, having worked around livestock.
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It could be interpreted that way too. But when you put it together with other passages in the book, you have to wonder...for instance, Ennis called his daughters AND his horses "little darlin." And there's the passage about how he married Alma and "had her pregnant by January." He also repeatedly tried to breed Alma in order to prove his masculinity until she put a stop to it by demanding that he use rubbers. When that happened, he said "If you don't want no more of my kids, I'll be happy to leave you alone" thus putting to bed the notion that he saw her as anything but breeding stock.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on March 24, 2008, 10:40:26 pm ---It could be interpreted that way too. But when you put it together with other passages in the book, you have to wonder...for instance, Ennis called his daughters AND his horses "little darlin." And there's the passage about how he married Alma and "had her pregnant by January." He also repeatedly tried to breed Alma in order to prove his masculinity until she put a stop to it by demanding that he use rubbers. When that happened, he said "If you don't want no more of my kids, I'll be happy to leave you alone" thus putting to bed the notion that he saw her as anything but breeding stock.
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Very good analysis Ranger! I had never connected the dots before, but what you are saying about Ennis now makes sense to me. :)
Artiste:
Front-Ranger, that is still a puzzle to me!
Your dots seem to connect!
There are OTHER ways too in connecting them?
Hugs!
optom3:
--- Quote from: Artiste on March 24, 2008, 10:52:10 pm ---Front-Ranger, that is still a puzzle to me!
Your dots seem to connect!
There are OTHER ways too in connecting them?
Hugs!
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I have always taken it, as he only had sex with Alma to have kids,not because he wnted to have sex with her per se.It is clear in the book and film that he has sex with Alma in the same way he does with Jack,can't think of a polite way of putting it.He taked her from behind.So if there is to be no more kids,he is in effect off the hook.I don't think he particularly enjoys sex with Alma.And he in reality now has an opt out clause.
In the book at Jack and Ennis's last meeting, it is clear that the sex between the 2 of them is still great.,described as "the brilliant charge" But I guess that is the difference between sex with the one you truly love,and sex as almost like a chore or duty.No comparison.
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