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As Easter nears, no Easter in Annie's story or the BM movie?? But??
brokeplex:
"Because he wanted to prove to the world that he was a potent man, and the visible proof of that is children". from Front Ranger
it is a 'darker motive' because Ennis is using procreation as a shield to protect him from visibility as a gay man. he is fundamentally using Alma for ulterior reasons, while Alma is in love with Ennis. that is a very dark situation Artiste.
Front-Ranger:
Toward the end of the movie, not the story, Ennis came to appreciate and take comfort in his children and to feel the "reassurance of life's continuance." But he also felt the pain of the loss of his life's love, Jack, and suffered because he was alone while his children "had it all before them, and nothing was wrong."
Another darker side of the story is that, while Jack and Ennis were on Brokeback Mountain, time didn't exist. They had their own garden of Eden. But when Aguirre interfered and told them what roles they were to play, they accepted his judgement. Also, when the sheep got tangled up they endeavored to straighten them out according to the rules, thinking "what if we have to work for him again?" When Aguirre ordered the sheep to be brought down from the mountain, Ennis acquiesced, even though he felt that he was in a "slow-motion but headlong, irreversible fall," a fall from grace. He rejected Jack and walked away from their life together, even though his gut told him not to. Time began for them then, and they could never go back to Brokeback.
This echoes the story of creation, a story that begins before recorded time. Time began when the egg of the universe shatters and time begins. The egg is the same as the oeuvre, or oestre, which became Easter. When the egg falls into time, the physical universe materializes. This ancient concept is echoed in many stories and religions, but I'll just repeat one that seems appropriate for today:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All of the king's horses and all of the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.
Artiste:
Wow, brokeplex makes me ponder!
And you too Front-Ranger!
Then you made me laugh hard with surprising me with:
Humpty Dumpty story!! ... so much so that I could NOT spell his names!!
I must sit on the throne and think like the statue of what you both say!!
À demain... will answer tomorrow!
Hugs, hugs!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on March 25, 2008, 11:31:05 pm ---Toward the end of the movie, not the story, Ennis came to appreciate and take comfort in his children and to feel the "reassurance of life's continuance." But he also felt the pain of the loss of his life's love, Jack, and suffered because he was alone while his children "had it all before them, and nothing was wrong."
Another darker side of the story is that, while Jack and Ennis were on Brokeback Mountain, time didn't exist. They had their own garden of Eden. But when Aguirre interfered and told them what roles they were to play, they accepted his judgement. Also, when the sheep got tangled up they endeavored to straighten them out according to the rules, thinking "what if we have to work for him again?" When Aguirre ordered the sheep to be brought down from the mountain, Ennis acquiesced, even though he felt that he was in a "slow-motion but headlong, irreversible fall," a fall from grace. He rejected Jack and walked away from their life together, even though his gut told him not to. Time began for them then, and they could never go back to Brokeback.
This echoes the story of creation, a story that begins before recorded time. Time began when the egg of the universe shatters and time begins. The egg is the same as the oeuvre, or oestre, which became Easter. When the egg falls into time, the physical universe materializes. This ancient concept is echoed in many stories and religions, but I'll just repeat one that seems appropriate for today:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All of the king's horses and all of the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.
--- End quote ---
excellent post. I think it is correct that time stood still for the boys while they were in their own private Arcadia, I can see the watch given to Ennis by Aguirre stopping temporarily. Aguirre returned to the scene, and metaphorically he started up the watch again. Aguirre always in control of the watch.
Artiste:
Thanks Front-Ranger!
You say:
This echoes the story of creation, a story that begins before recorded time. Time began when the egg of the universe shatters and time begins. The egg is the same as the oeuvre, or oestre, which became Easter. When the egg falls into time, the physical universe materializes. This ancient concept is echoed in many stories and religions, but I'll just repeat one that seems appropriate for today:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All of the king's horses and all of the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.
.....
Front-Ranger, brokeplex and to all too:
Please say more about the Humpty Dumpty story.
I do not think that get it yet!
Did Ennis became fat because he had a wife, some children, plus Jack (on the side)??
Ennis did fall... because he let Jack go once both (Ennis and Jack) came down from the Brokeback Mountain heaven?
And, again, Ennis, keeps falling because his wife saw him kissing a man (Jack)? She (Alma his wife) gets rid of her husband, divorsing him!!
Etc,?
Au revoir,
hugs! Note: I think that I get that Easter egg thing, but isn't that a myth like paradise in the bible is since its associated with sin as a result of loving oneself and another person??
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