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TOTW 06/08: Did Ennis die at the day described in the prologue?
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on February 25, 2008, 11:48:41 pm ---It would seem that the day described in the prologue is many years in the future from 1983 when Jack died. Perhaps AP meant us to think that it is in 1997, around the time she wrote the story. Ennis is described in the prologue as having gray hairs in his lower abdomen, that doesn't usually happen to men until they are in late middle age or early retirement years. I am in my early 50's and I am just now getting a few gray hairs on my chest, all other areas on me, except for the gray in the temples in my hairline, are still nice and toasty brown.
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Gee, thanks. You're telling me I'm getting old prematurely. ...
(On a more serious, topic-related note, I'm glad someone else noticed this detail. I've written elsewhere that I feel it's one indication that the prologue takes place many years, perhaps a decade at least, after Jack's death, and that Ennis is still alone--no finding another male lover.)
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: mouk on February 26, 2008, 08:10:37 am ---There was a fascinating discussion on this on the DC forum quite some time ago and several of the arguments were quite convincing.
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Maybe the author of the post I read was referring to this discussion.
I'm going over to look for it - I'm not - I'm going - I'm not - ... :laugh:
I won't. At least not now. I'm waiting what my BetterMost comarades come up with and read the DC discussion later.
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2008, 10:19:47 am ---(On a more serious, topic-related note, I'm glad someone else noticed this detail. I've written elsewhere that I feel it's one indication that the prologue takes place many years, perhaps a decade at least, after Jack's death, and that Ennis is still alone--no finding another male lover.)
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Hey bud, what am I, chopped liver? ;)
I talked about Ennis's grey pubic and belly hair (and it's indication of time passing) in my second post on this thread.
Tsk, tsk, tsk ;) Think you need more whiskey, then you'll see all the symbolic meanings clearly ;D. Nah, seriously, you're one of my fav persons to disagree with about the symbolic stuff :-*. How boring would it be if we all had the same opinions. This board would long be dead ::).
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on February 26, 2008, 10:48:16 am ---Think you need more whiskey.
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There's always room for more whiskey. ... ;D
myprivatejack:
Well,I had never thought about this possibility,but I find interesting to speak about it...I must say that Ennis die,or begun to die,the day he knew Jack was murdered.Although at the same time,he began somehow a "new life",since his "coming out" before Jack's parents was a kind of liberation from him,introducing himself without really hiding his love...But surely he didn't take much care of himself,as someone has said,mainly being a lonely man,for incapability or perhaps,a kind of self-punishment?.
Being as it's a movie full with methaphors,it can be one of them the wind, as an announcement that he's going to reunite himself with Jack at the end.The same than some phrases that have been remarked here,can be perfectly an announcement of an accident as a way to this reunion.Why not?Or simply,an heart attack,because Ennis-even if he wasn't an old man still...-has prematurely get old from this lack of care or for sufferings-anyhow,several years had passed,according to the s.s.-.Or ,I repite,because he didn't want,he needn't to keep on living...
P.S.:About a sink-pissing ghost...well,more than Ennis ghost,it would be Jack's ghost,who was funnier... ;D
souxi:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on February 26, 2008, 10:48:16 am ---Maybe the author of the post I read was referring to this discussion.
I'm going over to look for it - I'm not - I'm going - I'm not - ... :laugh:
I won't. At least not now. I'm waiting what my BetterMost comarades come up with and read the DC discussion later.
Hey bud, what am I, chopped liver? ;)
I talked about Ennis's grey pubic and belly hair (and it's indication of time passing) in my second post on this thread.
Tsk, tsk, tsk ;) Think you need more whiskey, then you'll see all the symbolic meanings clearly ;D. Nah, seriously, you're one of my fav persons to disagree with about the symbolic stuff :-*. How boring would it be if we all had the same opinions. This board would long be dead ::).
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*Ahem*
Jeff isn,t the only one who doesn,t agree with all this symbolic stuff lol. Re pissing in the sink, I mean the only thing that symbolises to me is that he woke up in the morning, desperate for a pee, couldn,t make it to the bathroom on time so he pissed in the sink. End of lol. ;D And don,t even get me started on buckets. :laugh:
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