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TOTW 06/08: Did Ennis die at the day described in the prologue?
Shakesthecoffecan:
Ever since my first viewing of the movie, I have thought of Ennis Del Mar as a living entity out there in the world somewhere, grown old and in declining health. I thought of him as a relic, the survivor of the two.
What I have noticed since Heath's passing is that I no long feel that way. With the passingof the actor that played his character, it feels like Ennis Del Mar is gone too.
Lynne:
--- Quote from: Shakestheground on February 27, 2008, 10:05:50 am ---...
What I have noticed since Heath's passing is that I no long feel that way. With the passingof the actor that played his character, it feels like Ennis Del Mar is gone too.
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:'( :'( :'(
It's a tribute to Heath's ability as an actor that he was able to embody Ennis so completely, I suppose. I've felt the same way though. I wonder if people thought the same with Bogart died - that he never had a chance to meet Ilse in New York one day? Somehow, I doubt it.
Marge_Innavera:
I recall the discussion on DC, but unfortunately their search function is disabled so it would be difficult to search for. It was at least a year ago, probably well before that.
That question is one I've never had a firm opinion on, but the suggestion that Ennis hasn't dreamed about Jack for awhile was one aspect I'd never thought of. One part of the other discussion I do remember is the mention of the sound of the wind being like shovels full of earth. (? ? ? my copy of the ss doesn't include the prologue)
As far as pissing in the sink is concerned, IMO if this has any significance it's to underscore Ennis being alone, and having been alone for some time. And you can add to that the fact that in the country, taking a pee outside when Nature calls unexpectedly is much more common and practical than in more populated areas. For someone who lives alone, at least a man who lives alone,* I guess it wouldn't be a very big step to piss in the sink right after waking up rather than bother with the bathroom.
*For a woman, peeing in a sink might iinvolve climbing up on a chair!
WhiskySpring:
Absolutely not. There is nothing in the prologue that suggests death whatsoever.
belbbmfan:
--- Quote from: Shakestheground on February 27, 2008, 10:05:50 am ---Ever since my first viewing of the movie, I have thought of Ennis Del Mar as a living entity out there in the world somewhere, grown old and in declining health. I thought of him as a relic, the survivor of the two.
What I have noticed since Heath's passing is that I no long feel that way. With the passingof the actor that played his character, it feels like Ennis Del Mar is gone too.
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Well, it's been a day of gloomy thoughts...I was watching the youtube video about the video Heath had made of the Nick Drake song Black Eyed Dog and all the talk about depression and the signs about the mental state he was in.
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16517.msg341002.html#new
And thinking about the topic of this (excellent btw) thread, it seemed like Ennis's state of mind in the prologue almost resembled Heath's. It's a very unsettling feeling. :-\ :(
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