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Modesty/ Changes in TS2 - screenplay vs. film
injest:
--- Quote from: forsythia12 on February 29, 2008, 11:04:51 pm ---well, i'm not sure the reason for the change would be. jeans or no jeans, i just like the direction he's goin'!" lol
the scene is hot no matter what. they could be wearing parkas for all i care! but back to your question, maybe it's just something with the acting, or maybe they felt like they could get closer to eachother with pants on. not that i think it was a problem for them, but just an idea. maybe they, or one of them, felt less inhibitted in that position if they were dressed a little more than planned. who knows.
as far as the sunset? i liked the fact it was dark.
but, i've seen the movie so many times, it's hard to imagine anything but the way it was played out.
hugs.
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I think that by staging the TS2 at night, it showed that they thought about it more..that they had spent the entire evening sitting and eating and not talking (or did they?? we don't know but I would like to)
if it had taken place earlier it would have felt more 'casual' ..like they had already decided to keep this relationship going...
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: injest on February 29, 2008, 11:48:53 pm ---I think that by staging the TS2 at night, it showed that they thought about it more..that they had spent the entire evening sitting and eating and not talking (or did they?? we don't know but I would like to)
if it had taken place earlier it would have felt more 'casual' ..like they had already decided to keep this relationship going...
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Yep, that's what I thought too, about the scene taking place in the dark.
My guess is also that they had a pretty quiet evening, no (or not much) joking around, no stories told, no carefree banter, talking only little. I picture thoughtful silence (mostly), and also a sense of unspoken, mutual understanding. Not understanding of what their relationship is about to become, but understanding of - looking for the right word here - being connected.
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: atz75 on February 29, 2008, 09:51:43 pm ---Anyway, one (perhaps sort of fun) difference I noticed recently has to do with the description of TS2. I was surprised to read in the screenplay that Jack is supposed to be entirely naked in this scene. Whereas in the film he has his jeans on. I'd be curious to hear what folks think about this change. Is this change a reflection of modesty issues for Jake? Did the filmmakers decide that having Jack be fully nude here would be too much for the audience (for one reason or another)?
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What comes to my mind is what Ang Lee said in interviews, that he didn't want to 'exploit' the actors (I put it in ' because I think it's simply their job; not getting exploited, but being naked when the scene demands it, but that's another topic). He said they were giving so much, he didn't want to ask more from them than what was really needed.
This comment is in agreement with Lee's well-known restraint in general as well as with his modest demeanor in interviews and the way everybody spoke of him. So maybe this is just a typical Ang Lee -thingie.
Maybe it was much simpler than that. Maybe they did takes with and without Jeans (like Louise said) and for whatever reason one of the takes with Jeans turned out to be the best. May just likely have been something as mundane as the lighting was perfect, no flies buzzed through the picture or whatever.
injest:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on March 01, 2008, 07:02:27 am ---What comes to my mind is what Ang Lee said in interviews, that he didn't want to 'exploit' the actors (I put it in ' because I think it's simply their job; not getting exploited, but being naked when the scene demands it, but that's another topic). He said they were giving so much, he didn't want to ask more from them than what was really needed.
This comment is in agreement with Lee's well-known restraint in general as well as with his modest demeanor in interviews and the way everybody spoke of him. So maybe this is just a typical Ang Lee -thingie.
Maybe it was much simpler than that. Maybe they did takes with and without Jeans (like Louise said) and for whatever reason one of the takes with Jeans turned out to be the best. May just likely have been something as mundane as the lighting was perfect, no flies buzzed through the picture or whatever.
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or maybe that particular take had that indefinable quality that has made it so talked about and loved? The naturalness, the honesty? There was such magic in that scene....I can't imagine that they were able to reach that level every time.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: injest on March 01, 2008, 08:39:03 am ---or maybe that particular take had that indefinable quality that has made it so talked about and loved? The naturalness, the honesty? There was such magic in that scene....I can't imagine that they were able to reach that level every time.
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Yes, I agree that this scene is pretty much perfection and I'm sure the final cut here in the film has a lot to do with a kind of indescribable chemistry and mood in one particular instance of this scene that probably couldn't happen in every single take.
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