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Shelter: The "gay surfer movie" (it's so much more!). See it now and discuss it!
j.U.d.E.:
--- Quote from: shakestheground on May 04, 2008, 12:56:31 pm ---I thought about that too, but Zach asks Shaun about his break up before they talk about his book. It seem like he knows about Shaun, I guess Shaun could be assuming he thinks he broke up with a woman. Cody seems to have no problem with his brother being gay, I would imagine Zach would have know about Shaun from Gabe, but kept that he read Shaun's book, which must have had some risque material, from Gabe so he wouldn't be suspect.
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Yes that's just it. When that scene came up, I was waiting for Zach to ask Shaun 'and who was she' or 'why did you break up with her' or something similar. But that did not happen. In that scene nothing Shaun says tells you whether he is talking about a man or a woman and in my opinion, there is nothing that makes it obvious that Zach is assuming that Shaun may be talking about a woman. As they've only just started hanging out together again (since Shaun's back in town), I think they both 'omit' to use pronouns, just out of respect of privacy, or something to that effect. In any case, I had the impression Zach knew all along. The only thing new to him, is that he started feeling 'confused' (I hate this word in that context - it's over-used, but I don't know what else to use) about his feelings towards Shaun. Or should I say that Zach is starting to be 'aware' of his feelings towards Shaun.
The conversation about the book was strange enough. I can't paraphrase it now, but they were kind of tip-toeing around the real subject. Kind of sweet, really.
I too, think that there must have been scenes that in the end were cut, but that would have made it clearer - maybe - that Zach knew about Shaun. But maybe these scenes were cut deliberately to have the viewer keep guessing.
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j.U.d.E.:
--- Quote ---Quote from: injest on Yesterday at 20:14:45
yes, he asks about the breakup BEFORE he mentions the book.
Now what was REALLY interesting to me was the exchange about the book....Shaun says "Gabe never told me" that Zack had read the book...makes me wonder if Gabe knew that Shaun had a thing for Zach already. cause I think Shaun (whether consciously or not) came back to the area because of Zack...
--- Quote from: belbbmfan on May 04, 2008, 01:26:31 pm ---Interesting. This might be true. I also had a feeling that Shaun had seen the home video before, that he was looking for it and not just stumbled across it.
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I tend to agree with both of you. Also, I think Gabe knew on some level. It's weird (in a good way), really. Everybody seemed to know already. Zach doesn't seem to have to tell anybody. Tori says she knew and Jeanne figured it out too.
I forget the details (have to watch it again), but how old was Zach when Shaun left?
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Shakesthecoffecan:
I see that earlier I messed up when I said Cody didn't have a problem with his brother being gay, when I should have said Gabe didn't have a problem with his brother being gay.
I think Zach must have recognized that music from the video, "What are you watch" or "listening too" he askes, expectantly. I think he is so happy to have someone to connect with. Gabe is gone and he has no close friends it looks like.
As for the age difference I would say they are at least 8 years apart. Zach and Gabe apparently learned how to surf from him. He probably went off to college when they were maybe 10 or 12.
But now don't you think Shaun was on the rebound when he moved back?
Shakesthecoffecan:
Here is the review on AfterElton that describes it as "Anti-Brokeback"
http://www.afterelton.com/movies/2008/3/shelter?page=0%2C0
injest:
--- Quote from: shakestheground on May 04, 2008, 06:43:55 pm ---I see that earlier I messed up when I said Cody didn't have a problem with his brother being gay, when I should have said Gabe didn't have a problem with his brother being gay.
I think Zach must have recognized that music from the video, "What are you watch" or "listening too" he askes, expectantly. I think he is so happy to have someone to connect with. Gabe is gone and he has no close friends it looks like.
As for the age difference I would say they are at least 8 years apart. Zach and Gabe apparently learned how to surf from him. He probably went off to college when they were maybe 10 or 12.
But now don't you think Shaun was on the rebound when he moved back?
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hmm. Not so sure...he seemed like he was on a mission himself...maybe (and this is just the feeling I got from him) he hadn't really been all that committed to his relationship and was wanting to (in Brokie lingo) stop 'standing it' and start 'fixin it'.
the more I think about it the more I am feeling that he came back because of Zach...not because of the free rent.
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