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who/what in BBBM/real life would you like to "fix "rather than stand?
Artiste:
Thanks Mandy!
May I say:
Some shrinks are gay and try to help gay men accept their sexual orientation BETTER!! At least, that is what I see in ads and writings I saw in a gay Quebec monthly I think it is!! Any therapist(s) here on Bettermost to mention something to us?
To me, Ennis could come to accept his life with living with Jack... on the long run !! With help if needed??
Ennis would rather then fix than stand ??
Anyone??
What would you suggest that a therapist helps with??
Hugs!!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Artiste on March 19, 2008, 09:02:27 pm ---
To me, Ennis could come to accept his life with living with Jack... on the long run !! With help if needed??
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it is very doubtful to me that Ennis could ever have accepted living with Jack. I doubt seriously if there were any therapists available, and Ennis would have looked upon it as a shameful thing to go to a therapist. mental illness is right up there with homosexuality in the shame gallery for someone like Ennis.
Artiste:
Thanks brokeplex!
True is what you say!
However, maybe instead of shame, one can see a therapist, a gay one, for acceptance...as to be joyous, like to feel like a group ??
In a way, wasn't Jack a therapist to Ennis?
And wasn't Ennis trying to be a therapist to Jack ?
What do you and others too think?
Hugs!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Artiste on March 19, 2008, 10:49:17 pm ---Thanks brokeplex!
True is what you say!
However, maybe instead of shame, one can see a therapist, a gay one, for acceptance...as to be joyous, like to feel like a group ??
In a way, wasn't Jack a therapist to Ennis?
And wasn't Ennis trying to be a therapist to Jack ?
What do you and others too think?
Hugs!
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It is not realistic to expect what you are suggesting of the characters Jack and Ennis in BM. If you chose to rewrite the story using a different locale and characters, go ahead, but I think that story was written long ago, and it would not be BM. The uniqueness of BM is that it tells the tale of two men from an environment that has been long neglected. There are many other tales of gay men in many different environments, lets respect this tale with all of its lessons and limitations, to do otherwise just misses the meaning of the story and the film. :)
Mandy21:
Brokeplex, I agree with your statement; it was unrealistic to imagine Ennis ever soliciting a therapist for help. Hell, he couldn't even admit what he thought were his weaknesses (even though they weren't) to himself. How in the whole wide world could he have ever admitted it to another???
Artiste, I also believe that both Jack and Ennis tried their whole lives together to be sort of therapists to each other, from the moment that Jack says it's all right in TS2. But does that mean they ever succeeded? If so, would Ennis have been on his knees crying in the final scene, and would Jack have been trying so hard to understand this moment of desperation/hopelessness/weakness in a man he perceived as so strong for 20 years?
I don't know, maybe you'd like to explain?
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