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Was Cassie in the Brokeback Mountain movie homophobic?
Artiste:
Quelle surprise !!
2 surprises!!
Brown Eyes:
Yes the long amount of time that Ennis seems to date Cassie (and the long duration of Jack's relationship with Randall) makes the conversation between Ennis and Jack during the evening of their final camping trip particularly odd.
Ennis seems to be mentioning Cassie here almost for the first time (referring to her as the "waitress who wants to go to nursing school or something") and Jack's little fib about the ranch foreman's wife here also seems to be the first time that a veiled reference to Randall comes up in Jack's conversation.
Given that the Childress charity dance was in the late '70s and this camping trip happens in 1983... that's a long time for Jack and Randall to have been involved potentially. And, Ennis was already with Cassie by the time of that charity dance.
BlissC:
--- Quote from: atz75 on April 03, 2008, 12:19:08 pm ---Yes the long amount of time that Ennis seems to date Cassie (and the long duration of Jack's relationship with Randall) makes the conversation between Ennis and Jack during the evening of their final camping trip particularly odd.
Ennis seems to be mentioning Cassie here almost for the first time (referring to her as the "waitress who wants to go to nursing school or something") and Jack's little fib about the ranch foreman's wife here also seems to be the first time that a veiled reference to Randall comes up in Jack's conversation.
Given that the Childress charity dance was in the late '70s and this camping trip happens in 1983... that's a long time for Jack and Randall to have been involved potentially. And, Ennis was already with Cassie by the time of that charity dance.
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Wow! I'd never paid that much attention to that part of the timeline! That does make that conversation on their final camping trip very odd then. I guess given the condensed nature of the timeline in the film, it could have been that the charity dance was intended to be later, but if it was intended to be later, why didn't they just make it later? And the story isn't much help because the dance scene isn't in the story (just me thinking out loud here). Very strange indeed.
serious crayons:
I would guess that Cassie probably is somewhat homophobic, like the majority of people in her time and place. But as far as the plot goes, I see that as a non-issue. She doesn't show any sign of wondering about Ennis' sexual orientation. Even if she does have suspicions, she doesn't act on them. Ennis breaks up with her, not the reverse; clearly she wants to get back together. So Cassie's attitudes about gay people really have no bearing on the story.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: BlissC on April 03, 2008, 12:33:54 pm ---Wow! I'd never paid that much attention to that part of the timeline! That does make that conversation on their final camping trip very odd then. I guess given the condensed nature of the timeline in the film, it could have been that the charity dance was intended to be later, but if it was intended to be later, why didn't they just make it later? And the story isn't much help because the dance scene isn't in the story (just me thinking out loud here). Very strange indeed.
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I'm at work... so I can't look the details of this up right now (or run and check my DVD)... but I think there's a banner in the dinner dance scene that specifically states the year (and I think it's 1978 or 79... or something). Maybe I'm mis-remembering this, but I thought that this was the case... and was why the dinner dance is an important time-line marker (at least in the film).
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