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Was Cassie in the Brokeback Mountain movie homophobic?
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on June 16, 2008, 05:49:37 pm ---After five years of dating, she may even have picked up some clues that were more than visual! ;)
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good point about the obviously intelligent Cassie picking up on the reality of Ennis's life. but, if she consciously understood that Ennis played in a different ball park, why was she so persistant with him and why was she then so distraught when he dumped her?
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Brown Eyes:
I think it's very hard to know how much Cassie ever suspected about Ennis. Mainly I think she's just baffled by the whole situation. And, she clearly seems to care deeply for Ennis during her final bus stop encounter with him. Especially in this scene, confusion feels like the dominant expression coming from Cassie... she even says "I don't get you...".
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on June 16, 2008, 05:49:37 pm ---After five years of dating, she may even have picked up some clues that were more than visual! ;)
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K, are you implying something about the way Ennis may treat her in bed (along the lines of what happens with Alma)? Or, are there other clues that you're hinting at here?
I keep coming back to the length of time that Cassie hangs on and the fact that she seems to feel like their relationship is significant enough for her to even contemplate "settling down" with Ennis. I really don't know if Cassie was really picking up any clues about Ennis's sexuality... I don't know if that would be on her radar screen as something to consider.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: atz75 on June 17, 2008, 01:17:12 pm ---K, are you implying something about the way Ennis may treat her in bed (along the lines of what happens with Alma)? Or, are there other clues that you're hinting at here?
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Yes, I was alluding to their sex life. I don't know if Ennis necessarily attempted to replicate his experiences with Jack, the way he did with Alma -- a scene that, after all, occurred before Jack came back into Ennis' life. But Ennis didn't seem very enthusiastic about the whole business, and you'd think Cassie might have noticed that he wasn't exactly a dynamo.
Like you guys, though, I don't think she quite put two and two together. I don't think Ennis would set Cassie's gaydar off in general. He probably wouldn't strike her as having the characteristics she would associate with homosexuality. Although Cassie is intelligent I doubt that, given her environment and culture, her gaydar is very fine tuned anyway.
jstephens9:
I thought she was beyond pushy with Ennis. She would have run me off even I were straight.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: jstephens9 on June 17, 2008, 02:19:28 pm ---I thought she was beyond pushy with Ennis. She would have run me off even I were straight.
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See, from my perspective Cassie is the most attractive of all the female characters (both physically and in terms of what I perceive to be a warm personality). So, maybe I'm a little biased on this topic. I like Lureen, but I don't find her all that attractive (probably because I'm somewhat similar to her in terms of personality/ being a work-a-holic).
Anyway, the "pushy" issue is interesting... She's definitely persistent but so is Jack. I wonder how we see Cassie's "pushy-ness" vs. Jack's "pushy-ness". I think Ennis is the type of person who would always need the other person to make the first move and to draw him out of his shell.
It really makes me curious about how he got together with Alma (I think this question has been pondered before elsewhere).
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