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Was Cassie in the Brokeback Mountain movie homophobic?
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Brown Eyes on April 04, 2008, 08:32:57 pm ---As far as I understand "the blocks" is a breeding term that applies to animals. I could be wrong but that's what I think he means in his comment to Jack. He's at least trying to demonstrate his sexual prowess to Jack here. They're both bragging to each other about sexual conquests with women (although it seems reasonably clear that in Jack's case the "ranch foreman's wife" was really a veiled reference to Randall... the ranch foreman himself).
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I believe that is correct, I think that it has something to do with the blocked cages that breeding animals are placed in while encouraging their breeding. ???
Ask Injest, she raises horses and cattle on a ranch here in TX. I'm just a city boy.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on April 04, 2008, 08:36:21 pm ---
you are giving Ennis more of break than I will. Ennis was responsible for his life, yes, he was in a difficult situation, but he was responsible for hurting Alma, Jack and Cassie.
perhaps at the end, the famous comment "Jack I swear" really meant, "I swear that I finally understand the tragedy that I have allowed to unfold in our lives."
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You're right brokeplex. I am trying to give Ennis a bit of a break, even though he certainly contributes to a lot of heartache and pain for the people who love him. But, I also have a lot of sympathy for Ennis and the struggles we know he goes through.
All the characters are flawed one way or the other. And, Ennis most certainly is too. But, yes, I'm willing to cut him some slack on certain issues (even if some of the things he says and does make me angry or disappointed).
Artiste:
Do we know if Ennis had sex with Cassie?
What proof?
All replies wanted for all... please!
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on April 04, 2008, 08:39:07 pm ---I believe that is correct, I think that it has something to do with the blocked cages that breeding animals are placed in while encouraging their breeding. ???
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Yes, doing a quick google search (a sad search! and one that I never want to repeat!) I found numerous references to the concept of "breeding blocks". Here's a sentence in which the term is used in an article about dog fighting rings and the breeding of pitbulls. This website seems to be about animal cruelty issues.
http://www.project-hope.net/diary/diary_pit_march1.html
--- Quote ---In the yard were two "breeding blocks," where a female's head would be forced through a metal ring so that a "stud" could mount her.
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:(
There also seem to be more conventional uses for this type of thing on ranches, etc. So, it doesn't seem surprising that Ennis would be familiar with this kind of slang.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Brown Eyes on April 04, 2008, 08:41:01 pm ---You're right brokeplex. I am trying to give Ennis a bit of a break, even though he certainly contributes to a lot of heartache and pain for the people who love him. But, I also have a lot of sympathy for Ennis and the struggles we know he goes through.
All the characters are flawed one way or the other. And, Ennis most certainly is too. But, yes, I'm willing to cut him some slack on certain issues (even if some of the things he says and does make me angry or disappointed).
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thats good, you balance out my colder tough love stance with Ennis.
I understand Ennis, I understand the pain and the constraints on him, and maybe that is why I know he didn't have to break so many hearts. I accept the fact that Ennis could never have lived with Jack, but I also know that Ennis could have treated Alma differently, their marriage could have lasted. Alma had Ennis's life in her hands, she knew the truth and never spoke of it until the Thanksgiving scene. Why? She loved him and wanted the marriage to work. If Ennis had just met her 1/4 of the way, they could have been happier. And I bet she would have looked the other way about Jack. But Ennis chose to behave in a manner that was intolerable. And think about this, Alma could have destroyed Ennis in his community, could have destroyed Ennis's relationship with his two girls, yet she chose to remain silent and protect that unpleasant man. "St. Alma" in my book! :)
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