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Was Cassie in the Brokeback Mountain movie homophobic?
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Artiste on April 07, 2008, 11:21:03 pm ---Thanks oilfieldtrash!
Was it not Cassie that forced herself on Ennis and kept on that way?
Au revoir,
hugs!
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I certainly don't think Cassie forces herself on Ennis. In a certain way, Ennis uses Cassie to maintain his public appearance of being a straight man. I think he's happy (to a certain extent) that she comes along because it's quite convenient for him.
Artiste, you're right that Cassie makes the "first move" in approaching him and asking him to dance (and to rub her feet, etc.). In that regard, she's like Jack... both Jack and Cassie make the "first moves" in their relationships with Ennis. And, I don't think either one can be accused of forcing Ennis to do anything.
Cassie's role in the film certainly is complex, I agree with you (and almost everything in BBM is complex, which makes it so great). In one sense, I think Cassie... being probably one of the most beautiful women in Riverton... is meant to demonstrate the degree to which Ennis is not straight and maybe not even really bisexual. Most people who are attracted to women would be thrilled to have Cassie as a girlfriend or would at least be flattered or excited by her attentions. And, Ennis's lack of enthusiasm is very telling. The little smile he gives Cassie when he rubs her feet, does show some level interest on the part of Ennis. But, again, not the excitement one might expect.
Ennis does date her for a long time. Introduces her to his kids (which is often considered a big step in a relationship), etc. So Cassie had good reason to believe that their relationship was serious. Whereas, I think Ennis continues to see the relationship as convenient and as a cover. His totally bored attitude towards it in his discussion with Jack is pretty revealing.
Artiste:
Merci atz!
Your post reveals much, and some of it surprises me too!!
Even if I am a homosexual man, I would be honoured to think that Marylin Monroe Cassie had a crush on me! (That has hapenned to me with such a Marylin Monroe, which I adore and love as actress and more as a person of worth!!)
I am flattered like Ennis that Cassie acts, but I would NOT have sex with her; therefore, I do not think that Ennis had sex with her neither?? Is that a possibility?
Au revoir,
so glad that you reply,
hugs!
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Artiste on April 10, 2008, 02:36:43 pm ---I am flattered like Ennis that Cassie acts, but I would NOT have sex with her; therefore, I do not think that Ennis had sex with her neither?? Is that a possibility?
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I don't think so. Artiste, clearly you are more comfortable with your identity as a gay man than Ennis was. He didn't want anyone to know he was gay, including Cassie. In order to keep up the pretense of her being his girlfriend, he has to act the part fully. So it's pretty impossible to imagine a relationship going on that long without him going through the motions of sex with Cassie. And even if he found it unappealing, I think he would have managed it, just as he managed a sexual relationship with Alma. I imagine he employed a bit of self-delusion -- though at some level he knew he was gay, perhaps he was able to convince himself that, as Story Ennis says, he "like(s) doin it with women" (personally, I don't think Story Ennis was being entirely honest here himself).
Meanwhile, if they went for years without sex I think Cassie herself would have wondered -- if not figured out -- the reason for Ennis' reluctance.
Artiste, you say you were flattered by your appeal to a "Marilyn Monroe." But it doesn't sound as if you dated her, or that you used her year after year as a front to conceal your real sexual orientation. That's one big difference between you and Ennis, and why your situations are not parallel.
BlissC:
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on April 08, 2008, 11:21:46 pm ---Around here, when you say you've seen the movie 20 times, people say, "What -- didn't you like it?"
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LOL! :laugh: :D :laugh: :D :laugh:
Artiste:
Thanks seriouscrayons !
Your post is perplexing and/or something as in pensive for moi, yes me to think about!!
I did date females/ladies!!
More on that later, if you like [/i]!!
Au revoir,
hugs!
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