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Texas Polygamy Sect
Artiste:
Most, isn't it, muslims, already have 4 wives, and no one goes against that, why ??
Artiste:
If these men were muslims, they would just return to their own country of birth, and not be courts in Texas ?
But here men/chiildren born in the USA, are brought into courts in Texas !!
Is that fair ?
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on April 18, 2008, 12:18:23 pm ---I have a feeling that the notion of polygamy (whether mormon, amish, muslim or just for one's lifestyle choice) is going to become yet another legal/social issue that will ride on the tails of gay marriage. And, the polygamists will have a good point....if marriage can be changed to include male/male or female/female marriages, why not male/female/female?
--- End quote ---
The Amish are not polygamous.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: injest on April 18, 2008, 06:54:51 am ---
so if your religion is enslaving other people you are not protected.
--- End quote ---
that wasn't the point that I was making, not even a near miss!
freedom of religion is constitutionally protected, and the right to be free from unlawful search and seizure is constitutionally protected.
additionally the right to the pursuit of "life, liberty, etc" is also constitutionally protected. These parts of the fed constitution balance these rights and the roles of government in protecting them. The same applies to the state constitution.
CPS and other authorities were acting to protect the "life, liberty, etc" of the children of the compound when they made their "raid". this is constitutional, and not a violation of "freedom of religion" if they used proper search warrants and procedures, and had demonstrable just cause.
I chose these constitutionally pertinant quotations in my post as a response to Kaiser's largely correct opine that there are clear dangers to governmental overreaction. We still do not know the full story of El Dorado and the FLDS, but the entire cult appears very suspicious to me, and we will hopefully know soon the whole truth about the cult, and whether the authorities reacted in a correct manner or not, in the fullness of time. I hope!
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on April 18, 2008, 12:18:23 pm ---I have a feeling that the notion of polygamy (whether mormon, amish, muslim or just for one's lifestyle choice) is going to become yet another legal/social issue that will ride on the tails of gay marriage. And, the polygamists will have a good point....if marriage can be changed to include male/male or female/female marriages, why not male/female/female?
--- End quote ---
Or why not female/male/male?
As the news reporter on Nancy Grace said, if it was a fringe polygamist cult - and the spouses involved were all adults and consenting no one would have blinked. They would have been just another cult and let the Feds deal with their governmentally unapproved marriage arrangements. But in almost every single case of a polygamist cult, the wife pool consists of both adult women and underaged girls. THAT is what causes the problem. These type cults are almost always men-controlled and designed to benefit their male founders. I've yet to hear of a polygamist cult where the women are allowed as many husbands as they want.
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