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Ennis and Old Man Twist
opinionista:
--- Quote from: Aussie Chris on May 25, 2006, 09:07:12 am ---I agree with you opinionista, however it was that Ennis gets in touch with the Twists before he gets there, and he must do this (I think) to know where they live, there wouldn't be any talk beyond this in the calll or postcard. I guess it is possible that he could just turn up in Lightning Flat and ask people (like Jack did to find Ennis after the divorce), but the way that Ma Twist come out on to the porch suggests an expected visitor.
One question though, when you asked "What about Bobby" I thought: What about "What about Bobby"? Do you mean that the Twists might leave the ranch to him? But why would they leave it to Ennis? Is this assuming that Jack was dead also? If not they would leave it to Jack surely. I think I'm confusing myself. ;)
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I think I got confused too. I thought I read someone suggested if Ennis and Jack were to live together at the Twist's ranch, then Jack dies before Ennis does, or something, afterwards his dad dies and Mrs. Twist ends up leaving the ranch to Ennis. So I figured if that were to happen, i mean if Jack and Ennis would indeed live together at the ranch, Jack would make sure Bobby would come to Lightning Flat sometimes and get to know his grandparents. So then, why Mrs. Twist leave the ranch to Ennis when Bobby was Jack's son?
David:
Chris: Well obviously the Twists would want to leave Jack the ranch. But after Jacks death, I can see Ma Twist wanting to change the will. She and Pa Twist have no connection to Lureen or Bobby. They know that Lureen and her Dad are rich and that Bobby will be well set in his future.
I can definately see Ma Twist asking Ennis if he wanted to come up to live and work on the ranch after the old man dies. Then she would change the will to leave the place to him after she dies.
serious crayons:
If Ennis and Jack lived together on the ranch, and then Old Man Twist died and then Jack died, Ennis would get the ranch.
In the story as it is, Ennis might conceivably still get the ranch if he kept going back to visit Mrs. Twist. But I doubt he would do that.
But living alone there? I don't know ... That ranch is bleak even by Ennis' standards.
Brown Eyes:
LOL! Whoa people. This thread really is getting crazy and funny. Seriously, re-read like the last 5 posts. Now no one seems to agree on who's dead or not. And how did this end up being a discussion about inheritance and changing wills, etc.?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Well, I guess the serious note in all of this is that if Ennis had lived with Jack he might have been better off financially. Way back on Brokeback he rejects Jack's offer of financial help, but things really might have been easier for Ennis if he'd swallowed his pride and accepted a little help. Ennis and Jack seem like very capable cowboys when they're working together. If Jack could supply Ennis with a ranch to start with, even in bad condition like Lightning Flat seems to be, then it might have been a great thing. They could at least have been their own bosses.
Ok, back to the question of how Ennis contacted Jack's folks. In the real film. Well, he hangs up with Lureen before asking the phone number of Jack's parents. Maybe there's an off chance that Jack and Ennis had exchanged this type of info in the past. He must have called. I agree that there's no way he would have shown up out of the blue. A postcard seems too slow.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: atz75 on May 26, 2006, 12:16:10 am ---LOL! Whoa people. This thread really is getting crazy and funny. Seriously, re-read like the last 5 posts. Now no one seems to agree on who's dead or not. And how did this end up being a discussion about inheritance and changing wills, etc.?
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LOL. OK, I think it's time to call in an attorney who specializes in estate law. I don't want to see this wind up in probate.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
As for the other question, I think we've narrowed down the possibilities. He gets their number from directory assistance and calls to say he wants to stop by and pay his respects. He doesn't mention the ashes. He tells them when he'll be there, and goes in the next day or two.
Now would she have had the cherry cake sitting around anyway, or did she make it in anticipation of his visit?
And on a slightly unrelated topic, don't you love how the light shines through Old Man Twist's eyes when he's ranting and gives him that slight crazy-old-geezer look?
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