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Double meanings: Lines that can be taken more than one way
Amber:
--- Quote from: fernly on July 07, 2006, 10:27:00 am ---Del Mar means island (isolated) in the sea (of homophobia, pain, loneliness) but mar also means damage (noun and verb), and Ennis certainly was damaged and never escaped it, and caused more himself, though never intentionally.
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Oooh ... that is something I did not know. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that.
--- Quote ---Another one: "Gonna snow tonight for sure." Snow was the harbinger of the early end of their summer on Brokeback, and here it's the harbinger of the early end of their relationship and Jack's life. Breaks my heart every time I hear him say it.
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As for ednbarby's quote above: For whatever reason I never put that together. That's quite the foreshadowing statement! I didn't think that scene could possibily be any sadder - guess I was wrong!!
That's the thing I really like about this movie. Everytime I watch it, I learn something new!
Mikaela:
--- Quote ---Del Mar means island (isolated) in the sea (of homophobia, pain, loneliness) but mar also means damage (noun and verb), and Ennis certainly was damaged and never escaped it, and caused more himself, though never intentionally.
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Great observation concerning the double meaning of Del Mar! :)
Of course, it made me think of the double meanings of "Twist". Except there aren't only double meanings, but rather ten times double meanings. Now as far as I know, the name was used by AP because it is related to a rodeo rider's movement while on the bull. But in addition, any brief look at a dictionary would give the following other meanings that could also be relevant for Jack (in addition to a heap of others, that I couldn't immediately connect to him....)
* To wind together so as to produce a single strand
* To coil about something
* To interlock or interlace
* To turn so as to face another direction
* To turn or open by turning
* To wrench or sprain (........can you twist a heart??)
* To alter the normal aspect of
* To alter the intended meaning of
* A personal inclination or eccentricity; a penchant
* A dance characterized by vigorous gyrations of the hips and arms ;)
* An unexpected change in a process or a departure from a pattern: a twist of fate; a story with a quirky twist.
In addition, I recall that when I first joined the BBM fandom, there was some slight grumbling because some people took the "Twist" name to be hinting at something twisted, ie. unnatural - or as the dictionary would define it: "To alter or distort the mental, moral, or emotional character of." How weird that anyone could see the film or read the story and chose to interpret the name that particular way..... ::)
Meryl:
Wow, I never thought about all those meanings, Mikaela. Thanks for pointing them out! 8)
dly64:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on July 07, 2006, 06:19:40 pm ---Of course, it made me think of the double meanings of "Twist". Except there aren't only double meanings, but rather ten times double meanings. Now as far as I know, the name was used by AP because it is related to a rodeo rider's movement while on the bull. But in addition, any brief look at a dictionary would give the following other meanings that could also be relevant for Jack (in addition to a heap of others, that I couldn't immediately connect to him....)
* To wind together so as to produce a single strand
* To coil about something
* To interlock or interlace
* To turn so as to face another direction
* To turn or open by turning
* To wrench or sprain (........can you twist a heart??)
* To alter the normal aspect of
* To alter the intended meaning of
* A personal inclination or eccentricity; a penchant
* A dance characterized by vigorous gyrations of the hips and arms ;)
* An unexpected change in a process or a departure from a pattern: a twist of fate; a story with a quirky twist.
In addition, I recall that when I first joined the BBM fandom, there was some slight grumbling because some people took the "Twist" name to be hinting at something twisted, ie. unnatural - or as the dictionary would define it: "To alter or distort the mental, moral, or emotional character of." How weird that anyone could see the film or read the story and chose to interpret the name that particular way..... ::)
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I found this interview with Jake Gyllenhaal which backs up what you are saying …
Jake Gyllenhaal’s Positive Feedback from Writer Annie Proulx:
“Annie Proulx wrote me a note very recently that has made - no matter what happens and how people respond to the film - has made the entire movie, making it totally worth it. She wrote me a note with a limited edition copy of ‘Close Range,’ which is the book that ‘Brokeback Mountain,’ the short story, is in. And in it she said that Jack Twist refers to, ‘twist’ refers to the strength of thighs and butt muscles that a bull rider has to have in order to stay on the bull. I had never really thought of it that way. It’s so funny. It’s so clearly in your face the whole time and you never really know what that is. I thought, ‘Yeah, there’s a real endurance.’
I find it amusing that you have pretty much said the same thing! ;)
Kajunite:
Okay I'm a slow reader! ;D I hope to get some of these sharp wits to comment on this line. Bartender, "Ever try calf ropin'?" Puleezzee!
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