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Atheists: Come out, come out, wherever you are
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Shuggy on July 24, 2006, 04:56:28 am --- Maybe an echo of "God speaks Hebrew" or "God speaks English"?
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Islam has the strangle-hold on that idea. You have to be able to speak/read Arabic in order to read and understand God's wishes in the Qu'ran 'properly'. No other way is acceptable.
God only communicates in Arabic you see. ::)
Giancarlo:
--- Quote from: opinionista on July 24, 2006, 06:11:04 pm ---I was raised atheist. My parents are atheist and I'm probably the only hispanic person who hasn't been baptized, and who has no idea about the bible and such. Along with my three siblings of course. It was hard to grow up atheist in a profoundly catholic culture, though. We were shunned sometimes. And my grandma really thought we were going to hell, and spent half her life trying to make us believe in God but failed terribly.
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I have been baptized but that was because of my grandmother. She is a hardline catholic (looks like the baptism didn't do much for me lol... I'm chasing a hot boyfriend). My parents are agnostic (my mom is more of an atheist then my dad, but he is still an agnostic). So you're not alone... my mom put on the catholic thing to please her mother (mostly out of respect). In my culture family is very strong. Much stronger then it is in the US. You probably are simliar to me. :)
Impish:
Sam Harris wrote an essay responding to the recent book "The Language of God," written by a well-respected scientist who has abandoned all ability to reason.
It's a two-page essay, and well worth reading:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060815_sam_harris_language_ignorance/
Cheers!
ednbarby:
Oh, MAN. Harris was right - I for one am deeply disturbed. Well, in the general sense, of course, but specifically that Collins' book is not a hoax.
This quote from Harris stood out:
--- Quote ---If the beauty of nature can mean that Jesus really is the son of God, then anything can mean anything.
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I have *got* to get my hands on The End of Faith.
Shuggy:
--- Quote ---If the beauty of nature can mean that Jesus really is the son of God, then anything can mean anything.
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This is literally true and can be proved mathematically. It follows from the fact that a false proposition implies any proposition.
If one number equals a different number, then suitable adding and multiplying can show any number to equal any other number.
(eg if 3=4 then 3x3=3x4=4x4, ie 9=12=16)
"You mean, if you accepted that 2=1 you could prove that you are the Pope?" someone asked Bertrand Russell.
"Yes," Russell (in essence) replied. "The Pope and I are two but if 2=1 then the Pope and I are one, therefore I am the Pope."
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